'16 SC RB Tavien Feaster

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led0321 said:
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Hahaha. 'One durr kid' indeed.
 
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Tuckervol1003 said:
I certainly would never tell people that they cannot have opinions on how a coach performs on game day. We all have our own opinions on that. Some are more thought out than others. Some are merely emotional responses to a win or a loss.

But, be careful with expectations this year. I have seen a decent number of people who look at our roster and say "ok, we back at full strength. Time to prove it". Well, when you have a starting QB who has not played a full season yet and nothing but true freshmen behind that, you are not ready to conquer college football yet. You are praying that our injury situation improves from the last few years.

I will be thrilled if we can get to 9 -3 this year. 8 - 4 would be acceptable as well.
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I'm not saying we're going to be playoff bound, I'm just saying Butch can't cite a talent gap or a thin roster as an excuse this year. This team has talent, and depth at most positions (OL not included). This team's success is on that coaching staff's ability. As has come out the last few days, we'll be favored in the majority of our games. No excuses this year.
 
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SeanJean said:
I'm not saying we're going to be playoff bound, I'm just saying Butch can't cite a talent gap or a thin roster as an excuse this year. This team has talent, and depth at most positions (OL not included). This team's success is on that coaching staff's ability. As has come out the last few days, we'll be favored in the majority of our games. No excuses this year.
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Depth is when you have top 10 talent from freshmen through 5th year seniors. If we have injuries, it will quickly become apparent how thin we really are.
 
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Feaster was 100% all in with Clemson. One trip and at worst we take half off that. Not bad for a weekend of work. :yess:
 
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SSVol said:
Depth is when you have top 10 talent from freshmen through 5th year seniors. If we have injuries, it will quickly become apparent how thin we really are.
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Yes, we're not Alabama, but we're not where we were in "year 0" either. We've got a talented roster.
 
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SeanJean said:
There have been some legitimate questions about Butch's gameday coaching ability in the first couple of years at UT (umm, Florida anybody?), but his roster has been a very veritable excuse. He also has had some games that he didn't have any business being in with that roster but still won or nearly won (SC, UGA in both years). This year he doesn't have the roster excuse, so it's go time. Simple as that.
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While I agree when it comes to most starters, roster issues are still a very grim reality for us.

First, we don't know how much (God forbid, if any) the O line will improve, with pretty much the same cast of players, unless a freshman steps in and crushes it.

Second, if Dobbs goes down, we are relying on true freshmen QBs in live action scenarios. If (again, God forbid) Hurd AND Kamara go down, who steps up at RB? We are as talented as we've been in a decade, but we are still not that deep on Offense in some critical areas.

Come next year with continued recruiting at the pace Jones has, I think we'll finally have elite talent in our two deep, and after the 16 & 17 cycles, I feel we will be on par in depth and talent with Bama, UGA, OSU, etc. But let this sink in, we have had two top 10 recruiting classes back to back and still have depth issues.

Be excited, however. I know I am, just be prepared for anything. :)
 
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SeanJean said:
Yes, we're not Alabama, but we're not where we were in "year 0" either. We've got a talented roster.
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If Dobbs goes down,we are screwed, no matter how good
Dormady looked this spring... He is still a freshman, and that is never a good thing as a starting QB
 
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I'm not disagreeing with anything you guys are saying. I'm just saying the lack of SEC talent can no longer be an excuse. If we have injuries, yes, we will suffer. All teams deal with that. Some less than others.
 
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triad280 said:
If Dobbs goes down,we are screwed, no matter how good
Dormady looked this spring... He is still a freshman, and that is never a good thing as a starting QB
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Disagree. I think an injury to Hurd or Kamara would be more critical due to our depth at RB.
 
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SeanJean said:
I'm not disagreeing with anything you guys are saying. I'm just saying the lack of SEC talent can no longer be an excuse. If we have injuries, yes, we will suffer. All teams deal with that. Some less than others.
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And that is where depth comes in... The starting 22 are as good as anyone, especially on the DL and the skill positions. But there are certain positions we are extremely thin and can afford no injuries. That is what separates championship teams and average teams
 
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I'll give Clemson credit where it's due. They've had a solid decade, with a mostly weak ACC, Florida State being in decline for half of that time. They've recruited well and performed pretty well, but probably not up to their level of recruiting (UGA like).

But don't think you can step up and smack us after our worst decade in history. The tide is clearly turning for Tennessee, and if you can't recognize the difference in energy, momentum and talent between now and the end of Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley years, you've got another thing coming.

We are two solid programs, Clemson has recent bragging rights, but overall tradition is ours. Bury your head in the sand if you wish, but the storm is coming... And soon
 
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onevol74 said:
Disagree. I think an injury to Hurd or Kamara would be more critical due to our depth at RB.
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No way. If we lost Hurd or Kamara, we are roughly where we were last year (we had a Freshman in Hurd, a hobbled (and awful) Lane, and then Devrin Young.). If we lost Hurd or Kamara we still have Hurd or Kamara (equal to, or greater than, Hurd last year) plus Kelly, Abernathy, Young and Sparks. Not good, at all. But not really worse than last year.

Without Dobbs, We go from a top 3 SEC QB to a bottom 2 SEC QB. That is *MUCH* worse. Especially since Dobbs can take more carries if we lose a RB (and we can add more jet sweeps).
 
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onevol74 said:
Disagree. I think an injury to Hurd or Kamara would be more critical due to our depth at RB.
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So having 2 quality backs is less depth than 1 QB? Did you see how well the offense operated under Dobbs when he took over compared to Worley? In no scenario can I see Dormady,as a true freshman,coming in and taking control of the offense like Dobbs did last year and the offense doesn't skip a beat.RB's can be plug and play,even as freshman,QB's not so much. Hurd could get hurt and we have a more than capable backup in Kamara, or vice versa.
 
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turambar85 said:
No way. If we lost Hurd or Kamara, we are roughly where we were last year (we had a Freshman in Hurd, a hobbled (and awful) Lane, and then Devrin Young. If we lost Hurd or Kamara we still have Hurd or Kamara (equal to, or greater than, Hurd last year) plus Kelly, Abernathy, Young and Sparks. Not good, at all. But not really worse than last year.

Without Dobbs, We go from a top 3 SEC QB to a bottom 2 SEC QB. That is *MUCH* worse. Especially since Dobbs can take more carries if we lose a RB (and we can add more jet sweeps).
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SeanJean said:
I'm not disagreeing with anything you guys are saying. I'm just saying the lack of SEC talent can no longer be an excuse. If we have injuries, yes, we will suffer. All teams deal with that. Some less than others.
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One more quality class with one more year of development and I completely agree. But I think we are one more year from having the depth to compete without regard to injuries.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I'll give Clemson credit where it's due. They've had a solid decade, with a mostly weak ACC, Florida State being in decline for half of that time. They've recruited well and performed pretty well, but probably not up to their level of recruiting (UGA like).

But don't think you can step up and smack us after our worst decade in history. The tide is clearly turning for Tennessee, and if you can't recognize the difference in energy, momentum and talent between now and the end of Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley years, you've got another thing coming.

We are two solid programs, Clemson has recent bragging rights, but overall tradition is ours. Bury your head in the sand if you wish, but the storm is coming... And soon
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Clemson hasn't had it as hard as we had due to schedule but they had a bit of a down turn 5 or so years ago at the end of Bowden. Dabo has done a great job (similar trajectory as Butch here) at starting with recruiting and trying to come up and grab some big wins along the way to keep building legitimacy.

Until about 3 years ago in his rebuild everyone said Clemson wasn't anything but a program below the elite level that would always blow a game or two against crappy teams. They also had the South Carolina streak that kept people from giving them their due (similar to our Florida losses).

Well the past 3 years they've upped that reputation even more and seem primed for a little stint near the top of CFB. They've beat LSU, Ohio St, FSU, SC and UGA all in the last three years. Also they haven't been losing those head scratchers anymore and they have continued to stack talent on talent.

Dabo is at year 6 and is in his 5-6 year championship window (probably started 2 years ago). Butch to me looks like he could get to that point by 2016 in year 4 as well.

So all in all I think we are a year or so behind them but both TN and Clemson could be staples in the playoff hunt for the next 5-10 years if Butch and Dabo continue to do what they are doing, IMO.
 
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I will say one thing in regards to Clemson: They have got themselves one hell of a QB there. That kid is going to be a star if he can stay healthy.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I'll give Clemson credit where it's due. They've had a solid decade, with a mostly weak ACC, Florida State being in decline for half of that time. They've recruited well and performed pretty well, but probably not up to their level of recruiting (UGA like).

But don't think you can step up and smack us after our worst decade in history. The tide is clearly turning for Tennessee, and if you can't recognize the difference in energy, momentum and talent between now and the end of Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley years, you've got another thing coming.

We are two solid programs, Clemson has recent bragging rights, but overall tradition is ours. Bury your head in the sand if you wish, but the storm is coming... And soon
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Common misconception with the talent comparison. We've finished the year at or above what our recruiting rankings would indicate for the past 4 years or so. Same can be said for our preseason rankings. Yet people somehow believe we underachieve, a la UGA.

We haven't lost a game in 3 years to a team with less talent, barring GT this year, and they were pretty damn good and still finished top 10. Still, if Deshawn doesn't go down, we likely steamroll them. USCjr in '12 and '13 probably had equal talent and we did lose both of those.

We currently have the 2nd longest streak in the country (only to Alabama) when it comes to losing to non-ranked opponents. Quite remarkable turnaround from where we were during the Bowden years. During his tenure we did regularly fall short of expectations and always had at least 2 WTF games a year.
 
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