'16 TN WR Nate Johnson

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gobraves101035 said:
Well he said he would take Dobbs over Ainge. So if Dobbs is better than Ainge then the senior stats shouldn't matter. The 31 passing touchdowns shouldn't matter. If Dobbs is better than Ainge then you might as well show Ainge's stats when he was at his best right?
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Show the 19 TDs and 9 picks as a junior. Also had -102 rushing yards. Now what, and I'm the HE you are referring to. :hi: Show them at the same times in their careers.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Show the 19 TDs and 9 picks as a junior. Also had -102 rushing yards. Now what, and I'm the HE you are referring to. :hi:
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Well if Dobbs is better than Ainge then he is better then Ainge at his best production. I have yet to see Dobbs have 31 total touchdowns. Just saying. Ainge scored 42 more points than Dobbs did. Yes it was his senior year, but it shouldn't matter. Dobbs is a better quarterback
 
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Middle of the pack quarterback.
Pass Completions
2015 SEC 191 (5th)
Pass Attempts
2015 SEC 319 (6th)
Pass Completion Percentage
2015 SEC 59.9 (6th)
Passing Yards
2015 SEC 2125 (7th)
Passing Yards Per Attempt
2015 SEC 6.7 (10th)
Adjusted Passing Yards Per Attempt
2015 SEC 6.9 (9th)
Passing Touchdowns
2015 SEC 15 (6th)
Passing Interceptions
2013 SEC 6 (10th)
Passing Efficiency Rating
2015 SEC 128.2 (7th)
Rushing Touchdowns
2015 SEC 9 (9th)
Touchdowns From Scrimmage
2015 SEC 10 (7th)
Total Plays
2015 SEC 453 (3rd)
Total Yards
2015 SEC 2748 (4th)
Total Touchdowns
2015 SEC 24 (4th)
Touchdowns
2015 SEC 10 (7th)
 
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The Breakerboy said:
What I'm comparing is how he dealt with a little pressure from a garbage team. I may have looked into it too much but he doesn't impress me other than throwing the deep ball. I see everyone talking about accuracy but Dobbs did beat him in the Spring hitting targets that weren't moving. Everyone loves the backup until the backup is the starter. I see a QB that I think would have us with 5 wins at best even with the talent surrounding him.
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Better...maybe we could compare the two's FIRST Springs instead of Dobbs third vs Dormady 's first? I'd hope Dobbs would have practiced throwing at inanimate objects during the Elite 11 and Manning camps. :). As for the 5 win projection? I'd counter with 10 and be just as "right". :). This stuff's easy.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Show the 19 TDs and 9 picks as a junior. Also had -102 rushing yards. Now what, and I'm the HE you are referring to. :hi: Show them at the same times in their careers.
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You're saying that you'd take Dobbs NOW over Ainge ANY DAY. Ainge had a complete career. If you're going to declare something, you can't cherry pick.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
Well if Dobbs is better than Ainge then he is better then Ainge at his best production. I have yet to see Dobbs have 31 total touchdowns. Just saying. Ainge scored 42 more points than Dobbs did. Yes it was his senior year, but it shouldn't matter. Dobbs is a better quarterback
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If Ainge is better than Dobbs then Ainge's junior year is better than Dobbs's junior year? Your logic here is not good...
 
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gobraves101035 said:
I will keep beating it like a horse. People say i'm wrong when I present stats and facts, not just speculation and future telling that they present me.
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This is starting to get an "American Pig" feel to it. Weirdest thread in the history of weird...and thread.

So what I'm trying to ask is...what are your thoughts on Nathan Peterman?
 
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Guyute said:
This is starting to get an "American Pig" feel to it. Weirdest thread in the history of weird...and thread.

So what I'm trying to ask is...what are your thoughts on Nathan Peterman?
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I think Nathan Peterman was a pretty decant quarterback in the wrong system and conference. I don't think he was an sec caliber type quarterback, but him moving to Pitt was a very smart move on his part. He played pretty well there this year, so that proves that he wasn't an all out horrible quarterback. Granted he did play weaker competition, but like I said, just wasn't an sec caliber quarterback.
 
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butchna said:
Better...maybe we could compare the two's FIRST Springs instead of Dobbs third vs Dormady 's first? I'd hope Dobbs would have practiced throwing at inanimate objects during the Elite 11 and Manning camps. :). As for the 5 win projection? I'd counter with 10 and be just as "right". :). This stuff's easy.
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Dobbs was an EE???
 
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chavisut said:
I'll roll with Clausen.
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Put Dobbs on that 2001 team and we go to play Miami for it all. His WR group as a whole was the best at UT at one time. Stallworth, Washington, and Witten were ridiculous. Add in Doak Walker Award finalist at RB and it's over. The O-line was also ridiculous. The QBs you all are comparing Dobbs to were surrounded by better talent on offense. Dobbs has good RBs that's it. The other guys had first rounders at WR who played like it.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Put Dobbs on that 2001 team and we go to play Miami for it all. His WR group as a whole was the best at UT at one time. Stallworth, Washington, and Witten were ridiculous. Add in Doak Walker Award finalist at RB and it's over. The O-line was also ridiculous. The QBs you all are comparing Dobbs to were surrounded by better talent on offense. Dobbs has good RBs that's it. The other guys had first rounders at WR who played like it.
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Clausen isn't why we failed to make it to Miami.

How loaded were the skill positions in 2003?
 
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DaddyChad said:
I'm not saying Dobbs doesn't have that ceiling because he does have all the potential in the world but he has to get more consistently accurate as a passer IMO to get there. IMO he hasn't passed Clausen nor Ainge yet.
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Agree. Love Dobbs, but it's not in the same stratosphere with Ainge in terms of talent to throw a football.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Dobbs was an EE???
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When did the milk bottle contests occur? If it's Spring then Dobbs ONLY had two...bet they throw at dead things during the summer tho. And his QB guru does the Mr. Miyagi thing...so add that. :hi:
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Put Dobbs on that 2001 team and we go to play Miami for it all. His WR group as a whole was the best at UT at one time. Stallworth, Washington, and Witten were ridiculous. Add in Doak Walker Award finalist at RB and it's over. The O-line was also ridiculous. The QBs you all are comparing Dobbs to were surrounded by better talent on offense. Dobbs has good RBs that's it. The other guys had first rounders at WR who played like it.
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Back to declaring unprovable things as fact. :loco: Since we're bending time, let's put a clean Tony Robinson on that team. :gone:
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Put Dobbs on that 2001 team and we go to play Miami for it all. His WR group as a whole was the best at UT at one time. Stallworth, Washington, and Witten were ridiculous. Add in Doak Walker Award finalist at RB and it's over. The O-line was also ridiculous.
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No offense, but you're crazy BB. Clausen was 27-43 for 332 yds, 2 TDs and 0 INTs. We didn't lose because of Clausen.

True, Dobbs gives you a rushing element that Clausen didn't, but CC was 10x the passer in terms of accuracy and touch. He utilized those weapons at WR and TE much more than Dobbs likely would have because his skill-set provided that ability. Dobbs' running ability and average passing skills might have neutered what Stallworth, Washington, and Witten could do.
 
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cncchris33 said:
No offense, but you're crazy BB. Clausen was 27-43 for 332 yds, 2 TDs and 0 INTs. We didn't lose because of Clausen.

True, Dobbs gives you a rushing element that Clausen didn't, but CC was 10x the passer in terms of accuracy and touch. He utilized those weapons at WR and TE much more than Dobbs likely would have because his skill-set provided that ability. Dobbs' running ability and average passing skills might have neutered what Stallworth, Washington, and Witten could do.
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I wouldn't say 10x the passer. He had a better play caller and WRs. Also people are loving on Ainge but forget how he threw the SECCG away.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Off course he needs to be more consistent but the same can be said for any QB with only one full year of starting experience.

I expect him to improve. But I also expect the talent around him to improve. Wide receiver was a position of weakness last year. I think it becomes a strength once again next year.
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If WR is a current position of weakness it's not for a lack of talent. I think it involves several other factors, only one of which is Dobbs' inaccuracy issues.
 
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