'16 TN WR Nate Johnson

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Can we all just agree it's a symbiotic relationship between QB and WR and lay this bludgeoned topic to rest please? Pretty please.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
The pick he threw the WR just let the DB whoop him for the ball. He threw them open and they dropped his passes. And I'd love to see the dude with Croom, Howard, and North all year instead of Freshmen, Pearson, and Smith. Only dudes that caught passes from him before the year that played a lot were Wolf, Malone, and Pearson. Does that not factor into anything? Don't QBs need WRs they can trust to be at certain spots on certain routes? Under Fulmer WRs consistently ran routes at the right depth. Even under Chaney they did as well. Our guys now are consistently on the wrong page. I watched a play versus Kentucky where the WR ran his route on 3rd and 12 4 yards pass the sticks. Dobbs threw directly to the sticks. Our fans dogged Dobbs but in obvious pass situations our WRs have got to be better and faster into their routes. That has a lot to do with bad WR coaching. And players not understanding where to be in certain situations.
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I guess he's screwed until he gets to the pros? :dunno: Poor guy.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Man I'm not delusional about his inconsistent passing but he's not as bad as you all try to make it.
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Dobbs certainly isn't as bad as a handful of guys make him out to be. On the other hand, he's also not a better version of Marcus Mariota which is who Dobbs4Heisman fancies him.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Man I'm not delusional about his inconsistent passing but he's not as bad as you all try to make it.
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And nowhere near as good (yet) as "you all" have bestowed. Saying you'd take him over Clausen and Ainge begs a response. You have a right to your opinion...so do those opposite yours.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Curious why he didn't show Ainge's Junior year instead of his Senior year which Dobbs hasn't gotten to even play yet. 😂😂😂😂 Guy is a crock. 2006 Ainge's had Meachem and Swain going crazy too. Much better than any of our WRs right now.
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Great point about his junior year.
 
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butchna said:
And nowhere near as good (yet) as "you all" have bestowed. Saying you'd take him over Clausen and Ainge begs a response. You have a right to your opinion...so do those opposite yours.
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I would take him over them. I prefer dual threat QBs. He's my type of QB personally. I feel the coaches have to tight a leash on play calling. The more aggressive we are the better Dobbs seems to play. That's my opinion about him. And people will say it's because of Dobbs passing. But when we are down they open up the playbook with no problem. I think it's just their safe approach. We should come out and attack every defense we play.
 
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butchna said:
And nowhere near as good (yet) as "you all" have bestowed. Saying you'd take him over Clausen and Ainge begs a response. You have a right to your opinion...so do those opposite yours.
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For some reason I see for more critical posts about Dobbs. I don't understand it. He has won us some games. He is great QB for our offense. He may not have Casey's accuracy, yet, but he sure has some ice in his veins. He needs to get better and I have no doubts that he will. It is ridiculous all the posts saying the same thing over and over about Dobbs passing. He is not as bad as some of you make him out to be. He does a ton of things really well. I don't think that he gets the credit he deserves. I think what most have a problem with is our offensive philosophy and schemes instead of Dobbs. They just don't realize it.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Please tell me about all these talented receivers? Pretty much the only guys who have been healthy all year are Malone, Smith, and Pearson. Malone looks good running against air but the kid drops too many passes. Pearson caught on late but was MIA to start the year. And Josh Smith was probably our best receiver this year. And the fact he was the best should tell you how bad this group performed.

On paper in the preseason the group looked talented. Till injuries and dissmissals took affect. North has been hurt all year. Pig was dismissed. Preston is a true freshmen coming off an ACL. Jennings is a kid who converted from QB.

So please tell me who are all the talented receivers Dobbs had this season?
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Why the hate for Josh Smith. Wasn't he the guy that bailed Dobbs out right before the half vs Georgia on a throw that who in the hell knows who he was throwing it to?

Wonder what you have against Josh Smith? Hmmmm.....I wonder.
 
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QuickSmurf said:
For some reason I see for more critical posts about Dobbs. I don't understand it. He has won us some games. He is great QB for our offense. He may not have Casey's accuracy, yet, but he sure has some ice in his veins. He needs to get better and I have no doubts that he will. It is ridiculous all the posts saying the same thing over and over about Dobbs passing. He is not as bad as some of you make him out to be. He does a ton of things really well. I don't think that he gets the credit he deserves. I think what most have a problem with is our offensive philosophy and schemes instead of Dobbs. They just don't realize it.
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I've watched the same games. I've seen former QBs with differing levels of WR talent. True throwing talent finds a way to shine through. His hasn't yet...IMO.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
You realize Dak threw 10 more TDs and 1 fewer INT than Dobbs this year despite having no run game whatsoever to give him any help, right?
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Dak is that offense period. Dobbs has help here with two of the best RBs in the country. Dak has better WRs though and better passing concepts/play calls.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I'd take Dak over Dobbs in a heartbeat just in our own conference.
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You do know Dak is a RS Senior that is 3 years older than Dobbs?

People don't realize that Dobbs is unique in the sense that he's a true junior. Most of the QBs in college football redshirt. Even a guy like Chad Kelly is a redshirt junior.

Dobbs is younger than all 3 of the QBs people say are better than him. In fact if you look at where Brandon Allen and Dak Prescott where as RS sophomores (which is essentially where Dobbs is right now), Dobbs is way ahead.

Its gonna be funny to see the excuses you clowns make next year when he's throwing for 3000 yards and 30 TDs. You'll act like what he did was unpredictable. Eventhough its easy to see right now given his talents.
 
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KBVol said:
Why the hate for Josh Smith. Wasn't he the guy that bailed Dobbs out right before the half vs Georgia on a throw that who in the hell knows who he was throwing it to?

Wonder what you have against Josh Smith? Hmmmm.....I wonder.
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I don't have anything against Josh Smith. I like him alot. Just saying that on a team with so many 4 and 5 star wide receivers, its sad when the local 3 star kid is the best of the bunch.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
You realize Dak threw 10 more TDs and 1 fewer INT than Dobbs this year despite having no run game whatsoever to give him any help, right?
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You do realize Dak is a RS Senior and Dobbs is a true junior.

How bout you look up Dak Prescott's RS Sophomore stats. You'll find that they're eerily similar to Josh's this past season.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You do know Dak is a RS Senior that is 3 years older than Dobbs?

People don't realize that Dobbs is unique in the sense that he's a true junior. Most of the QBs in college football redshirt. Even a guy like Chad Kelly is a redshirt junior.

Dobbs is younger than all 3 of the QBs people say are better than him. In fact if you look at where Brandon Allen and Dak Prescott where as RS sophomores (which is essentially where Dobbs is right now), Dobbs is way ahead.

Its gonna be funny to see the excuses you clowns make next year when he's throwing for 3000 yards and 30 TDs. You'll act like what he did was unpredictable. Eventhough its easy to see right now given his talents.
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You're starting to get out of control with your Dobbs love. THROWING 3k yards and 30 TDs is way out. So far through Dobbs 3 years (limited in first 2), Dobbs only has 4026 yard and 26 TDS with 17 INTS. Only 15 passing TDs this year. He would have to DOUBLE his production. And he is unpredictable. Thats why he throws for 83 vs UF (89 vs Mizzou) and 312 against UGA (255 vs USC). I get being a homer, but at least be semi realistic.

I think Dobbs goes for 2450 with 19 passing TDs and 6 INTs next year. Add on 625 yards rushing with 8 TDs
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
You're starting to get out of control with your Dobbs love. THROWING 3k yards and 30 TDs is way out. So far through Dobbs 3 years (limited in first 2), Dobbs only has 4026 yard and 26 TDS with 17 INTS. Only 15 passing TDs this year. He would have to DOUBLE his production. And he is unpredictable. Thats why he throws for 83 vs UF (89 vs Mizzou) and 312 against UGA (255 vs USC). I get being a homer, but at least be semi realistic.

I think Dobbs goes for 2450 with 19 passing TDs and 6 INTs next year. Add on 625 yards rushing with 8 TDs
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http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...65-people-acting-dobbs-cant.html#post12216939

Some of you really know nothing about football. Read that post I made in that thread then respond to me.

If Dak can make that leap from RS sophomore to RS junior then why can't Josh?

If we throw it enough next year, I think 65% passing, 3000 yards, and 30 TDs are possible.

Dobbs by the numbers is more advanced passing the ball than Dak and Brandon Allen at the same stage (3 years removed from high school).
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You do know Dak is a RS Senior that is 3 years older than Dobbs?

People don't realize that Dobbs is unique in the sense that he's a true junior. Most of the QBs in college football redshirt. Even a guy like Chad Kelly is a redshirt junior.

Dobbs is younger than all 3 of the QBs people say are better than him. In fact if you look at where Brandon Allen and Dak Prescott where as RS sophomores (which is essentially where Dobbs is right now), Dobbs is way ahead.

Its gonna be funny to see the excuses you clowns make next year when he's throwing for 3000 yards and 30 TDs. You'll act like what he did was unpredictable. Eventhough its easy to see right now given his talents.
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Since when is a RS Sr 3 years different than a true JR? Dak was a 2011 recruit, Dobbs was a 2013 recruit. I'd take JR Dak over JR Dobbs, however that wasn't the point. He said he wouldn't trade Dobbs for any QB right now. There were no conditions of only QB's the same age as Dobbs. If we want to go that route, I'd trade for Baker Mayfield; they're the same age for you.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...65-people-acting-dobbs-cant.html#post12216939

Some of you really know nothing about football. Read that post I made in that thread then respond to me.

If Dak can make that leap from RS sophomore to RS junior then why can't Josh?

If we throw it enough next year, I think 65% passing, 3000 yards, and 30 TDs are possible.

Dobbs by the numbers is more advanced passing the ball than Dak and Brandon Allen at the same stage (3 years removed from high school).
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Dak's jump in stats was not inconsequently a result of throwing it 130 more times. One would expect stats to increase with opportunity. I don't see DeBord throwing the ball 10x more per game just to do it.

Dak also only played in 11 games as a SO and all 13 (counting bowls) from there on out.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...65-people-acting-dobbs-cant.html#post12216939

Some of you really know nothing about football. Read that post I made in that thread then respond to me.

If Dak can make that leap from RS sophomore to RS junior then why can't Josh?

If we throw it enough next year, I think 65% passing, 3000 yards, and 30 TDs are possible.

Dobbs by the numbers is more advanced passing the ball than Dak and Brandon Allen at the same stage (3 years removed from high school).
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My post wasnt comparing Dak to Dobbs. The stats I predicted are an increase. The problem with next year is that the other teams know what to expect next year even more. And we play a weaker schedule, resulting in an increase in our back ups playing. You're talking about Dobbs going from 15 TDs to 30 TDs in this offense.... a run based offense. We understand football and you pretend that you know more than everyone else.. and even if you did, you're completely unrealistic in your expectations. Dobbs may be able to SCORE 30 TDs, but no way is he going to throw THROW TDs next year.
 
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For comparison, this year, Chad Kelly threw for 3740 27 TDs.

This year Dak Prescott threw for 3413 and 25 TDs.

This year, Coker threw for 2489 and 17 TDs.

3000 with 30 TDs is so off chart.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
You're starting to get out of control with your Dobbs love. THROWING 3k yards and 30 TDs is way out. So far through Dobbs 3 years (limited in first 2), Dobbs only has 4026 yard and 26 TDS with 17 INTS. Only 15 passing TDs this year. He would have to DOUBLE his production. And he is unpredictable. Thats why he throws for 83 vs UF (89 vs Mizzou) and 312 against UGA (255 vs USC). I get being a homer, but at least be semi realistic.

I think Dobbs goes for 2450 with 19 passing TDs and 6 INTs next year. Add on 625 yards rushing with 8 TDs
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Put him on ignore. It's heaven
 
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