'17 VA DE Elijah Conliffe (Florida commit)

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lot of conjecture at this point...but yeah yall go ahead and freak its what you do.
 
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BruinVol said:
We shouldn't be in a spot to pressure elite kids because we are full of marginal ones in the name of spots. It's simply.
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Its a balancing act that for sure you could handle better than the staff. Noted.

I wish we had more room too but that is also assuming that we would actually get all these guys late. You never know till NSD so you have to make choices, choices these guys get paid a lot to make.
 
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BruinVol said:
Exactly. There is no law you have to oversign to the max every year in the name of quantity over quality.
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I agree with this. I would rather them hold one in the bank than take a marginal player. Blue-shirts can work if you've got a player that really wants in and he trust you to honor your word come August. Obviously, they have to come and visit on their own dime and accept that the coaches can't come and see them. If you can keep one or two of those in your pocket then you have a spot to back count when situations like this arise.
 
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PA Vol said:
Watch this kid end up at Florida, now.

Cut ties with one of the receivers that's an academic liability. I love Murphy, but we know Conliffe can get in but we don't know if Murphy will. It's an easy decision for me.
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It's a travesty when u look at this class and your letting an elite dt walk because your not willing to wait on a wr and u filled up to quickly it's not like we filled up with Uga or bama type of a class
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
What? Take a WR commitment in place of a DT that will not give you a commitment yet? Makes zero sense. Talk Payton into taking a blueshirt. WRs are a dime a dozen. Championships are won and lost in the trenches...talented HS DTs must be a take all day every day! The only way that I see this move making any sense is that Conliffe actually told them he is going elsewhere.
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Here here what I been saying absolutely stupid....this staff mak we should me scratch my head do they want to screw around or are they serious about championships. U have a 3rb that everyone says is marginal. U have Elite dt hmmmmm...this is just an example
 
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chavisut said:
Better to have a spot for another big time DT and miss. IMHO JMO GBFO
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BruinVol said:
Exactly. There is no law you have to oversign to the max every year in the name of quantity over quality.
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Agree with both of these.

I don't really have a problem so much with them pressuring Conliffe. But I gotta scratch my head at our insistence to fill up every single year. Multiple blue shirts and oversigning.

I don't have a problem with processing kids or git shirts but I don't understand their yearly insistence on striving to sign the absolute max attainable at all costs.
 
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MADISONGAVOL said:
Here here what I been saying absolutely stupid....this staff mak we should me scratch my head do they want to screw around or are they serious about championships. U have a 3rb that everyone says is marginal. U have Elite dt hmmmmm...this is just an example
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While Conliffe may end up being elite, I find it interesting that Bama, who only has 2 D-lineman committed, has basically passed on him or is holding him at arms' length. Bama needs D-lineman desperately too and it's obvious this guy is down their list. Maybe there is something more to Conliffe being passed over by Bama and possibly UT?
 
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volfaninpa said:
While Conliffe may end up being elite, I find it interesting that Bama, who only has 2 D-lineman committed, has basically passed on him or is holding him at arms' length. Bama needs D-lineman desperately too and it's obvious this guy is down their list. Maybe there is something more to Conliffe being passed over by Bama and possibly UT?
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True, we were in the mention with him several months ago, then all went quiet. Then in the last few weeks we get CBs all of a sudden.

You still have Murphy, Fant, and perhaps even Jones that have academic issues to deal with - then all of a sudden Shamburger is being recruited by Bama.
 
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volfaninpa said:
While Conliffe may end up being elite, I find it interesting that Bama, who only has 2 D-lineman committed, has basically passed on him or is holding him at arms' length. Bama needs D-lineman desperately too and it's obvious this guy is down their list. Maybe there is something more to Conliffe being passed over by Bama and possibly UT?
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Has there been any mention that Conliffe may you have a grade concerns?
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
Butch is about to royally screw the pooch here.
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You make the decision. Let's say we have 1 spot left. What do you do if Conliffe calls on Tuesday and says he wants to commit to the Vols and LaBryan Ray has not made a decision yet?

I see people griping about numbers. This week, we took a commit from Josh Palmer because we have just 6 returning WR's and the 3 we have committed for 2017 all have academic concerns.. We also took a commit from Tim Jordan because we only have 2 returning RB's and needed a 3rd in the class. Would you prefer to only have 4 RB's going into 2017 or risk having less than 10 WR's in 2017?

Is it still an option to drop someone with 5 or less days till signing day? Do we really want to risk the backlash from that?
 
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The problem we have right now is that we don't really have much in the way of marginal recruits right now. Coleman, Thaxton, and Fant are some of the only ones that immediately pop to mind that I would be completely fine with losing.

I certainly want Conliffe, and the possibility of picking up Parks or Ray.

Then again, I love D-line.
 
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Tuckervol1003 said:
You make the decision. Let's say we have 1 spot left. What do you do if Conliffe calls on Tuesday and says he wants to commit to the Vols and LaBryan Ray has not made a decision yet?

I see people griping about numbers. This week, we took a commit from Josh Palmer because we have just 6 returning WR's and the 3 we have committed for 2017 all have academic concerns.. We also took a commit from Tim Jordan because we only have 2 returning RB's and needed a 3rd in the class. Would you prefer to only have 4 RB's going into 2017 or risk having less than 10 WR's in 2017?

Is it still an option to drop someone with 5 or less days till signing day? Do we really want to risk the backlash from that?
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Well said.
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Dust10 said:
I feel like this late in the game you have to at least give a silent commitment. Hard for schools to pass up a sure thing for a maybe.
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But even a silent is not a sure thing. Dirty business on both sides. No way to ever really know with some kids.
 
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Hubbs Basically said yesterday that the Vols would love to have Conliffe but they'd have to part ways with someone to do it. He said there is no way they were going to hang a kid out to dry at the last minute. That's why they pressured him for a commitment.
 
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Conliffe doesn't make or break this class. Neither does Ray for that matter.

Would love to have both or either. But the overall grade for this class doesn't hinge on one recruit.
 
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