19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[WoodsmanVol]

I love reasonable and rational discussion with intelligent people who have different opinions other than my own , it’s how we learn . Me calling you an idiot isn’t childish , it’s just a reflection of your intellect when it comes to firearms . The real issue is your lack of knowledge but trying to sound edumacated with all that word salad you spout constantly.

The edumacated like you will always seek to justify both their insults and idiocracy. Congratulation for demonstrating this very thing.

 

[0nelilreb]

The edumacated like you will always seek to justify both their insults and idiocracy. Congratulation for demonstrating this very thing.

I don’t have to justify anything , it’s my opinion based on reading your numerous posts . Word Salad .

 

[hUTch2002]

A baseball bat would not have killed 21 people. Sorry.

Box cutters were used to take planes. In a room with 1 adult and a bunch of scared kids, yes, a ton of damage can be done with a bat and/or knife.

 

[1vol8]

There's a lot of these mad men. I was in an Aldi store last year. A guy was strutting around with two Glocks mounted on hip holsters (I didn't even know such holsters existed for that type of gun), an ankle holster with what looked like a .38, and a back holster with a smaller pistol I couldn't identify, plus a .357 in a shoulder holster. His wife (I assume) was with him and was obviously VERY uncomfortable. His watch-out demeanor and strutting about, there are a fair number of rectal cavities like him in my rural area. This type of mentality is more widespread than is publicly admitted. And these multi-killing guns need to be unavailable for civilians, in my view. I grew used to seeing rifles mounted on racks in rear pickup windows. Never thought anything about them. I also grew seeing hunters on forest trails with revolvers in hip holsters while hiking or strolling on trails. Never thought anything about it, stopped and chatted with some of them from time to time. Never saw anybody with an assault weapon back then, and if I did today, I'd seek to leave immediately because those things aren't meant for regular hunting, they're just people killers and so is the person carrying it. That's my take on it, everyone else is welcome to their own take, just stay the hell away from me.

Not true. Just your opinion.
I use my AR-15 for aggressive game/ground hunting (like hogs). Or if there’s a possibility of a bear encounter. If I go deer hunting, I’ll bring my hunting (bolt action) rifle but my AR will be close by. Right now I have the AR loaded with hollow points for home defense. As are the rest of rifles outside of bolt action. My semi automatic shotgun has a 10 round magazine. The first shot is bird shot. The second is buck and the remaining 8 are slugs. In the case of your encounter, you’re talking about a year ago. A year ago people were burning down buildings, pulling people from their cars and beating them to death over the color of their skin. That being said, I don’t blame him. Would I do that? No. At least not open carry and certainly not so heavily armed on my person. My truck is a different story at any given time and at all times I carry a 9mm and a 357. But we’re talking about mad men. Did your guy open fire? Aim a weapon at anyone? Or make any threats? Did he appear nervous in a threading manner? If the answer is no then it sounds to me like you seeing a man in tactical gear just makes you nervous. Understandable. But not outside of what he should be allowed. However I bet you would like to see that guy walk through the door if you’re one of the people being shot at by a mad man in a supermarket. If I had to guess, I’d say MAYBE one of every 10,000 guns sold are bought by someone that intends harm on someone. But the other 9,999 left those guns at home while the mad man has his with him. Maybe if the people started tactical dressing as a norm everywhere there would be more good guys firing back because they would be equally as prepared. (Don’t get that twisted because I’m not advocating for full time tactical gear as a norm)

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Not true. Just your opinion.
I use my AR-15 for aggressive game/ground hunting (like hogs). Or if there’s a possibility of a bear encounter. If I go deer hunting, I’ll bring my hunting (bolt action) rifle but my AR will be close by. Right now I have the AR loaded with hollow points for home defense. As are the rest of rifles outside of bolt action. My semi automatic shotgun has a 10 round magazine. The first shot is bird shot. The second is buck and the remaining 8 are slugs. In the case of your encounter, you’re talking about a year ago. A year ago people were burning down buildings, pulling people from their cars and beating them to death over the color of their skin. That being said, I don’t blame him. Would I do that? No. At least not open carry and certainly not so heavily armed on my person. My truck is a different story at any given time and at all times I carry a 9mm and a 357. But we’re talking about mad men. Did your guy open fire? Aim a weapon at anyone? Or make any threats? Did he appear nervous in a threading manner? If the answer is no then it sounds to me like you seeing a man in tactical gear just makes you nervous. Understandable. But not outside of what he should be allowed. However I bet you would like to see that guy walk through the door if you’re one of the people being shot at by a mad man in a supermarket. If I had to guess, I’d say MAYBE one of every 10,000 guns sold are bought by someone that intends harm on someone. But the other 9,999 left those guns at home while the mad man has his with him. Maybe if the people started tactical dressing as a norm everywhere there would be more good guys firing back because they would be equally as prepared. (Don’t get that twisted because I’m not advocating for full time tactical gear as a norm)

You weren't there so don't even know what you are talking about. He was strutting around the store, his entire body language communicating that he was unapproachable, the clerks were leery of serving him, people left the store, some who also left their carts in the middle of the aisle. His goal was to show he was armed and dangerous, and he got his message through quite well. Not true, you know nothing, you weren't there. And just because you act differently with your almighty guns doesn't mean everyone else acts the same. But nevermind, I've encountered your like before. You engage in irrelevant arguments because someone doesn't think the way you do and cite your experiences to claim you're right and everyone who thinks or lives differently than you is wrong. So I'll just leave your spider hole of existence because it's a lost cause to even think about discussing the topic with folks like you. Seen it all before. As I said, even his own wife (or whoever was the woman with him) was VERY uncomfortable, and she knew him better than any of the rest of us did. His discomfort spoke volumes. Proceed to get in a huff, hew, and holler about it, that's what folks like you do without fail every time. BTW, I also don't cotton to the idea of trying to befriend a grizzly bear, by patting it on the head, offering to brush its fur, and tickling its belly. If think otherwise, that's your business, I would seek to dissuade you.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Box cutters were used to take planes. In a room with 1 adult and a bunch of scared kids, yes, a ton of damage can be done with a bat and/or knife.

For one thing, the 9/11 hijackers also had fake bomb devices strapped to their bodies for crowd control. Yes, modified box cutters were used to kill the pilots from behind, and passengers who immediately resisted but obviously, being aboard a plane at 15,000 feet, is an entirely different circumstance than what we are talking about in this thread.

Second, I never said that a knife or a bat, couldn't be used to kill people, including children. What I objected to, was the assertion that a knife or a bat would be as efficient at killing people as an AR 15 style rifle would be .... and I don't believe the death toll ever reaches 21 people, before there is successful outside intervention.

And like I said before .... You let me know the next time we have a bat-swinger kill over 10 people in a school building. That has never happened. Such attacks with an AR 15 style rifle have become an annual occurrence in American schools.

 

[whodeycin85]

For one thing, the 9/11 hijackers also had fake bomb devices strapped to their bodies for crowd control. Yes, modified box cutters were used to kill the pilots from behind, and passengers who immediately resisted but obviously, being aboard a plane at 15,000 feet, is an entirely different circumstance than what we are talking about in this thread.

Second, I never said that a knife or a bat, couldn't be used to kill people, including children. What I objected to, was the assertion that a knife or a bat would be as efficient at killing people as an AR 15 style rifle would be .... and I don't believe the death toll ever reaches 21 people, before there is successful outside intervention.

And like I said before .... You let me know the next time we have a bat-swinger attack kill over 10 people in a school building. That has never happened. Such attacks with an AR 15 style rifle have become an annual occurrence in American schools.

There was 1 guy who liked 2 adults and 2 kind with a ball peen hammer then a splitting maul... if more kids were there do you think they survive?

 

[Rickyvol77]

I love reasonable and rational discussion with intelligent people who have different opinions other than my own , it’s how we learn . Me calling you an idiot isn’t childish , it’s just a reflection of your intellect when it comes to firearms . The real issue is your lack of knowledge but trying to sound edumacated with all that word salad you spout constantly.

He posts like he thinks he’s “folksy” but in reality everyone avoids him the way people avoid talking to retarded people in real life

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Earlier in this thread someone said they would give up their AR-15 because they don’t need it in light of the recent school shooting. I responded with my opinion that the AR-15 is no more than the low lying fruit to Bidens ultimate goal of having ALL semi automatic weapons banned before he moved on to revolvers and then on to calibers. At the time it was only a strong opinion. Now it’s been confirmed in my eyes. This interview gives away his intent imo and I think it should be clear to everyone that he’s aiming at your 9mm handguns next. Start at 2 min if you want the meat only

He’s a lying sack of chit. That story is just as fabricated as CornPop

To take on the govment you need an F15 or Abrams tank! The Taliban or Ukrainians be like...

 

[C-south]

There's a lot of these mad men. I was in an Aldi store last year. A guy was strutting around with two Glocks mounted on hip holsters (I didn't even know such holsters existed for that type of gun), an ankle holster with what looked like a .38, and a back holster with a smaller pistol I couldn't identify, plus a .357 in a shoulder holster. His wife (I assume) was with him and was obviously VERY uncomfortable. His watch-out demeanor and strutting about, there are a fair number of rectal cavities like him in my rural area. This type of mentality is more widespread than is publicly admitted. And these multi-killing guns need to be unavailable for civilians, in my view. I grew used to seeing rifles mounted on racks in rear pickup windows. Never thought anything about them. I also grew seeing hunters on forest trails with revolvers in hip holsters while hiking or strolling on trails. Never thought anything about it, stopped and chatted with some of them from time to time. Never saw anybody with an assault weapon back then, and if I did today, I'd seek to leave immediately because those things aren't meant for regular hunting, they're just people killers and so is the person carrying it. That's my take on it, everyone else is welcome to their own take, just stay the hell away from me.

We implemented open carry last August for those with a CWP and I haven’t seen a single person exercise that right.

 

[1vol8]

You weren't there so don't even know what you are talking about. He was strutting around the store, his entire body language communicating that he was unapproachable, the clerks were leery of serving him, people left the store, some who also left their carts in the middle of the aisle. His goal was to show he was armed and dangerous, and he got his message through quite well. Not true, you know nothing, you weren't there. And just because you act differently with your almighty guns doesn't mean everyone else acts the same. But nevermind, I've encountered your like before. You engage in irrelevant arguments because someone doesn't think the way you do and cite your experiences to claim you're right and everyone who thinks or lives differently than you is wrong. So I'll just leave your spider hole of existence because it's a lost cause to even think about discussing the topic with folks like you. Seen it all before. As I said, even his own wife (or whoever was the woman with him) was VERY uncomfortable, and she knew him better than any of the rest of us did. His discomfort spoke volumes. Proceed to get in a huff, hew, and holler about it, that's what folks like you do without fail every time. BTW, I also don't cotton to the idea of trying to befriend a grizzly bear, by patting it on the head, offering to brush its fur, and tickling its belly. If think otherwise, that's your business, I would seek to dissuade you.

Simmer down Billy goat. If you misunderstood my post, fine. But if you didn’t, you should clearly understand that I wasn’t attacking your response to him. I think it’s clear that I agree it’s odd. However, the fact he wasn’t arrested tells me you must be in an open carry state? And therefore he was within his rights. Rights aside, you conveniently didn’t acknowledge the time frame of what was happening in the world a year ago. Also you obviously misunderstood what I was saying was untrue. You made the insinuation that AR-15s are not hunting rifles and even made the quote “they are people killing guns”. That’s what I was referring to when I said “not true” and told you what I use mine for. It’s multi purpose but the last thing it is is a people killing gun.

Good lord…… you sound like a Karen getting so triggered that you might consider changing your screen name to something other than Woodsman. No “woodsman” I know is against guns like you seem to be. Relax

 

[1vol8]

To take on the govment you need an F15 or Abrams tank! The Taliban or Ukrainians be like...
View attachment 461077

All that is is the second time he’s threatened us. I’ve come to expect that from an anti American POS

 

[VolStrom]

/thread

Do you know why doors inside a building don't open out genius? Apparently not.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

We implemented open carry last August for those with a CWP and I haven’t seen a single person exercise that right.

I don't know who "we" is but in my area, I see them. Some are members of motorcycle clubs (gangs?), then there's that over-weaponized guy in the Aldi store. To be fair, open carriers aren't overly prevalent even where I live, but you see them here and there. As is true that one size doesn't fit all, one location doesn't speak for all locations.
You got gun carriers these days who feel they are some god or another, just looking an excuse to use or show off their gun(s).

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Simmer down Billy goat. If you misunderstood my post, fine. But if you didn’t, you should clearly understand that I wasn’t attacking your response to him. I think it’s clear that I agree it’s odd. However, the fact he wasn’t arrested tells me you must be in an open carry state? And therefore he was within his rights. Rights aside, you conveniently didn’t acknowledge the time frame of what was happening in the world a year ago. Also you obviously misunderstood what I was saying was untrue. You made the insinuation that AR-15s are not hunting rifles and even made the quote “they are people killing guns”. That’s what I was referring to when I said “not true” and told you what I use mine for. It’s multi purpose but the last thing it is is a people killing gun.

Good lord…… you sound like a Karen getting so triggered that you might consider changing your screen name to something other than Woodsman. No “woodsman” I know is against guns like you seem to be. Relax

 

[1vol8]

Gladly.

 

[MemphisVol77]

He posts like he thinks he’s “folksy” but in reality everyone avoids him the way people avoid talking to retarded people in real life

It's getting cringe. Poor guy's in way over his head crossing over into the PF with his shtick.

It's odd because I'd always kinda liked him and found his schtick slightly endearing in the FF forum. He didn't bother me, even though he once tried to chastise me for posting an old B&W Shirley Temple celebratory dance gif in a recruiting boom thread. Thankfully a mod removed his banter.

From 2016-2020 I'd never even once opened the PF, much less read a thread in here. Due to participation on other online political/social forums & communities, I had a good idea of what to expect here. I had no intention of getting my hands dirty and wallowing in the muck of the PF. Volnation was just a simple place of solace and blissfull focus on football for me.

But then 2020, Covid, lockdowns, Floyd, BLM, and Pruitt happened....... A few of you PF degenerates kept stirring the pot and posting bait about Pruitt & BLM's involvement in the FF. I tried to give a very civil and moderate reply before I realized it was a bait thread. But then someone took a swing at me, so I swung back. By the time I put my hands down the mods had moved everything over here to the PF. You PF degenerates had stolen my innocence and my hands were dirty.

I can accept my end, but this place could use some kind of 'Warning!-This Is Sparta' notice for the newcomers.

Like with Woodsman, I've seen it happen about 20 times over the past two years here in the PF now. They show up full of bravado, confident in their shtick


And they're broken before they ever figure out what went wrong.

 

[1vol8]

I don't know who "we" is but in my area, I see them. Some are members of motorcycle clubs (gangs?), then there's that over-weaponized guy in the Aldi store. To be fair, open carriers aren't overly prevalent even where I live, but you see them here and there. As is true that one size doesn't fit all, one location doesn't speak for all locations.
You got gun carriers these days who feel they are some god or another, just looking an excuse to use or show off their gun(s).

No audio. You have no idea what happened there because after watching, I don’t either

 

[Gandalf]

Can you imagine what it must have been like seeing American Chestnut trees each with canopies bigger than a football field filled with native Carolina parakeets and other wildlife.

Spend some time here and you will have a good idea at least

 

[WoodsmanVol]

No audio. You have no idea what happened there because after watching, I don’t either

Did you even read the post instead of only watching the video? No? It figures.

 

[1vol8]

Did you even read the post instead of only watching the video? No? It figures.

I did. You claim there are those that are just looking for a reason. And I agree. There are all kinds in everything we discuss here.

 

[1vol8]

I did. You claim there are those that are just looking for a reason. And I agree. There are all kinds in everything we discuss here.

Did you even read the post instead of only watching the video? No? It figures.

But that doesn’t mean there was no reason in that particular video. Do you know dude didn’t whisper “I’m killing you and the bit^^ when you get outside “? This is what the media does. Shows you half of what they want you to see and tell you what to think of it.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

But that doesn’t mean there was no reason in that particular video. Do you know dude didn’t whisper “I’m killing you and the bit^^ when you get outside “? This is what the media does. Shows you half of what they want you to see and tell you what to think of it.

I may recall incorrectly, but I believe witnesses said there was no cause for Mr. Pale to draw his gun. That he was flexing his macho, basically. The pointof the post is that we have open and conceal carry people with an attitude of godhood and a license to be modern day gunslingers.

 

[1vol8]

I may recall incorrectly, but I believe witnesses said there was no cause for Mr. Pale to draw his gun. That he was flexing his macho, basically. The pointof the post is that we have open and conceal carry people with an attitude of godhood and a license to be modern day gunslingers.

So hearsay is your justification?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

So hearsay is your justification?

There you go, a detour from the intent/message of the original post. Exactly what I expected.