19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

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Septic said:
This is nonsensical cherry-picking.

There have been mass shootings in TX, OH, IN, MI and FL over the last 10 years, and all have Republican Govs.

This is a mental health crisis, not a gun crisis or a political leadership issue.

While you bozos bicker about gun rights, nothing is being done to actually address the root cause.
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What party is Gretchen Whitmer from, the governor of Michigan?
 
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VolStrom said:
Yeah, but Texas doesn't have mass shootings every day like Chicago does. Look at this on a weekly basis, and Texas sucks at killing babies compared to Chicago.
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I think the issue in Chicago is a cultural one. These kids are raised without a sense of right or wrong, many perpetrators likely come from broken homes where there's no one to teach or impart moral lessons. There's no hope to get ahead and many are mired in a gang family that has no reverence for the human life.

I think there's a distinction of causation between that and some like the crazy ass whackos who shoot up schools, churches and movie theaters.
 
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Here's a fun Chicago story for you, BB85. Gang members involved in a shooting were released without charges. Why? They were deemed "mutual combatants."

Chicago violence: Prosecutors reject charges in deadly gang-related Austin shooting

"But a police report framed the state's attorney's office's decision to decline charges in a different light: "Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection." Mutual combat is a legal term used to define a fight or struggle that two parties willingly engage in. "
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Meanwhile...

Firearm Stocks Soar Over Fears Of New Gun-Control Laws | ZeroHedge
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Which shows how paranoid the demand market for guns is.

If we have learned anything at all from the mass shooting incidents at Sandy Hook Elementary from 2012 (26 dead), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando from 2016 (49 dead), and the concert across the street from Mandalay Bay in Vegas from 2017 (61 dead) it's that they only lead to the further laxation of gun laws, or even to the complete elimination of them.
 
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Actually, Chicago does. There were 3,561 shootings in Chicago in 2021 resulting in 797 homicides.

I see that you must have actually done some homework after you posted this, and you realized you were VERY mistaken (because you deleted it).

2021 ends as Chicago's deadliest year in a quarter century
 

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Gandalf said:
Because we have this one weird trick that makes it that way - The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription - go ahead and click, you know you want to :D

Unless something is expressly proscribed, we have the freedom to have most anything. To make something illegal, aka remove that freedom, they would have to show why they would need to TAKE AWAY that freedom.
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While this may indeed be a better system, it’s not the one we have. In fact, you got it almost exactly backwards.
 
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VolStrom said:
Well, okay then, let's just let mentally ill people kill everyone they feel like. Do you have any family members you'd like killed?
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Wowwwwwwwww. So we’ve gone from it’s not right to execute mentally disabled people to I must want them to kill people? Actually the dumbest response in this thread and that’s a high bar.
 
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VolStrom said:
If I could only time the market when a sick bastard was going to kill a bunch of kids so I could get rich.
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May as well average in starting now, there's always going to be more shootings. And the gun industry is always going to fear monger about them coming for your guns.

Spoiler alert: "they" aren't going to get them.
 
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Vol423 said:
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Actually, Chicago does. There were 3,561 shootings in Chicago in 2021 resulting in 797 homicides.

I see that you must have actually done some homework after you posted this, and you realized you were VERY mistaken (because you deleted it).
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That is a different discussion.... I never said that there wasn't a major problem with gun violence in Chicago, but you aren't defining "mass shooting incidents" correctly.
 
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