19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

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K-town Vol Fan said:
So what I'm learning is an officer saw him go in to the school, and did nothing. He then stood outside and prevented screaming parents from entering the building. The shooter was in the school for some 40 minutes murdering children while the police were outside. Doing nothing. Those parents had to listen to the sounds of their children being murdered while the police did nothing to stop it except hold them back.

What a world we live in.
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Horrible if true. Just sickening.
 
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SIAP but Obama should be embarrassed but you know he's not. Lumping the murder of kids in with George Floyd of all people. The people neo-liberals worship.

This really what social media has done to society. Do you think if he had gone down to talk to people in Uvalde that he would've told them to give a moment of silence to think of George Floyd as well.

This was talked about last night how the left continues to squeeze juice from this turnip.


 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So what I'm learning is an officer saw him go in to the school, and did nothing. He then stood outside and prevented screaming parents from entering the building. The shooter was in the school for some 40 minutes murdering children while the police were outside. Doing nothing. Those parents had to listen to the sounds of their children being murdered while the police did nothing to stop it except hold them back.

What a world we live in.
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If true that cop should do the shooters life in prison sentance
 
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BreatheUT said:
SIAP but Obama should be embarrassed but you know he's not. Lumping the murder of kids in with George Floyd of all people. The people neo-liberals worship.

This really what social media has done to society. Do you think if he had gone down to talk to people in Uvalde that he would've told them to give a moment of silence to think of George Floyd as well.

This was talked about last night how the left continues to squeeze juice from this turnip.


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He had some patronizing legislation to sign to rile up his base. This horrible event in Uvalde took attention away from it.
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
I am in the education field. I am no longer in the classroom, but I was for several years. Expecting teachers to be armed and ready to shoot an intruder is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. And then let’s pay them a whopping 40 grand (or less) per year. Many (maybe even most) teachers would lay down their lives for their students, it’s not a question of love or protective instincts. But where will a teachers responsibilities end?!
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Welcome to law enforcement but seriously, no one is suggesting mandatory carrying by teachers
 
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allvol123 said:
He had some patronizing legislation to sign to rile up his base. This horrible event in Uvalde took attention away from it.
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Are you taking about Biden? Yeah that federal law enforcement executive order didn't get attention they want on democrats George Floyd Day.
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
I think that regardless of what side of the political spectrum we are on almost all of us care greatly about this issue. My husband and I had a heated debate about it over dinner tonight. He doesn’t want any sort of new gun control. I would be willing to back gun control measures if I thought it could help save our children at a school. However, he and I each had this conversation with tears in our eyes. We’re parents, we’re humans, and young children being killed is heartbreaking to us as it is to pretty much everyone.
We as a country need to cause such an outcry that something is done to fix it. If you have 50 guns or if you have 0. If you love or hate gun control. If you are democrat or republican. Because I can tell you first hand, I see these babies every day. They can’t defend themselves against the mental illness and evilness that are in this world. And their lives are worth us adults shutting the hell up with our arguing, swallowing our pride and figuring this out.
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Most people “against gun control” are so because it doesn’t have any affect on the crimes mentioned anymore than the current laws have. It’s obviously an emotional topic to some but logic and Constitutional law are more important to cling to here
 
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utvolpj said:
I know there are armed teachers in my kids school. I know who at least one is and I have little to no doubt she would engage to save the kids. I also know any officer who refused to go would be fired and likely humiliated by my sheriff
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Do those armed teachers know they are breaking the law every day?
 
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This is so ludicrous. Armed teachers in classrooms; armed guards in the halls; single entrance/exit presumably with guards; might as well have recess behind a concrete wall. Masks are psychologically destructive for children, but we're sitting here talking about sending them to prisons every day to protect them from being massacred.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You literally suggest we fund guns to protect schools, groceries, stores, literally everything.....

until mental health is funded and society is changed enough to assure that people won't be nuts in a society that essentially offers wholesale availability of guns, ammo and body armor?

How long do you thing that will take?
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No literally Just schools....why can't we use guns to protect our most precious and purist individuals? They are the future. Do you not think they should be protected? Do you not care about little children? Would you use a gun to protect your family?
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
But why did there used to be no school shootings? Is it because schools are “gun free zones” or is it something else? Say the year is 1960, was it assumed that people inside the school would have weapons? I know my dad has talked about being able to take hunting rifles in his truck back in those days…
If it’s not that would be shooters were deterred by the threat of people on the inside having guns then what has changed? Mental health seems to be one major thing. I’m sure there are lots of studies I could read, but I just wonder what has caused this influx of of individuals with mental health problems.
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There have always been school shootings. You just here about them more and there are more frequency of them
 
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I don't necessarily agree with arming teachers, but all y'all do know churches are now having an armed security team in place for psycho's who want to be famous? Generally they are plain clothes now. If they have active police in their membership even better.

I think that's why many of the psycho's we hear that shoot in church appear to surveil or attend for a while before they commit their cowardice act. They want to make sure it's vulnerable and they won't take one to the dome before they get started.
 
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Septic said:
Yeah, I dont believe in god. The fear of being accountable in the afterlife is not even remotely a reason that I'd cite for not murdering someone.

It's terrifying that THAT could be the difference in a "believer" shooting up a school or not.
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Then I pray that He will reveal Himself to you in such a way you can't deny Him, before you meet Him face to face.
 
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