19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[Dirty Vol]

Schools are the classic soft target because the students can't be armed and the teachers aren't paid security, they're teachers.

You can't expect teachers to be proficient enough with weapons to be effective against a heavily armed, armored shooter.

It's not about not wanting to protect the kids. It's about teachers not being trained, school systems not having the money to continue training, supply weapons, supply gun safes, supply insurance, etc.

If you've not noticed, there are a lot of schools that have to fight tooth and nail to just have basic supplies because no one wants their taxes to rise for teacher salaries and supplies. Are you suggesting the Feds will administer this? That's not how most funding for schools works AND since when has having the Feds messing in schools been a good thing?

It's not a workable solution.

Fine lets cricle back atound to that 53 billion and use that to bring in armed security to make them hard targets until the schools can be fitted with controlled points of entry. They should no longer be a "classic soft target". I think you can agree on that.

The federal government in most cases is useless, slow, and cumbersome. I only know the feds to do two things very well and that is taking money and wasting money. The changes are driven by the people the people must dictate the improvements for schools by demanding safer schools and more funding from the state level. Use the federal government as the money bags after all it is our money that they are collecting. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

As someone who has 3 children under 10, 2 neices who are studying to become teachers and a sister who is a teacher along with knowing many teachers in the community I'm fully aware of the struggles and financial hardships to cover basic needs.

Instead of pushing CRT and other radical ideologies let's push protection and safer schools

There is a workable solution.

 

[allvol123]

I'd start with any law enforcement documented history of threat to harm self or others or diagnosis of PTSD, schizo affective disorder, or substance abuse. Amend HIPPA to allow national law enforcement only database on this. Tie it to already existing NCIC database. Could be set up in less than a year, easily.

which one of those stops this guy?

 

[ButchPlz]

Fine lets cricle back atound to that 53 billion and use that to bring in armed security to make them hard targets until the schools can be fitted with controlled points of entry. They should no longer be a "classic soft target". I think you can agree on that.

The federal government in most cases is useless, slow, and cumbersome. I only know the feds to do two things very well and that is taking money and wasting money. The changes are driven by the people the people must dictate the improvements for schools by demanding safer schools and more funding from the state level. Use the federal government as the money bags after all it is our money that they are collecting. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

As someone who has 3 children under 10, 2 neices who are studying to become teachers and a sister who is a teacher along with knowing many teachers in the community I'm fully aware of the struggles and financial hardships to cover basic needs.

Instead of pushing CRT and other radical ideologies let's push protection and safer schools

There is a workable solution.

Hot take: CRT and other -ism-based education is what causes this more than anything.

 

[lawgator1]

What does it reveal?

That the poster dumbs down the number of deaths we should worry abiut if it was a suicide or if it was black kids killing black kids. Surely you can detect the issue.

 

[McDad]

Since sex education in schools is the answer to address stds, and out of wedlock pregnancies, isn't gun safety and gun education in the schools the answer to address gun violence?

 

[lawgator1]

which one of those stops this guy?

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

That the poster dumbs down the number of deaths we should worry abiut if it was a suicide or if it was black kids killing black kids. Surely you can detect the issue.

I've already pointed out what the solution to black-on-black crime and the rest of this nonsense is, but you liberals are standing in the way.

 

[utvolpj]

That the poster dumbs down the number of deaths we should worry abiut if it was a suicide or if it was black kids killing black kids. Surely you can detect the issue.

You claimed 4300 were shot and killed. Talk about dumbing down a number

 

[05_never_again]

I'd start with any law enforcement documented history of threat to harm self or others or diagnosis of PTSD, schizo affective disorder, or substance abuse. Amend HIPPA to allow national law enforcement only database on this. Tie it to already existing NCIC database. Could be set up in less than a year, easily.

The categories you mentioned there are not unreasonable. It would have stopped the Virginia Tech shooter from purchasing his weapons, for example.

You and I both know it would not stop at that though, particularly when someone who gets through that type of background check (like the Uvalde shooter would have) does something. It would inevitably eventually prevent anybody who has ever been prescribed an anti-anxiety drug from purchasing a firearm, IMO.

 

[lawgator1]

Since sex education in schools is the answer to address stds, and out of wedlock pregnancies, isn't gun safety and gun education in the schools the answer to address gun violence?

JFC

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

People like you have diluted the true definition of what a "felony" should really be.

 

[lawgator1]

The categories you mentioned there are not unreasonable. It would have stopped the Virginia Tech shooter from purchasing his weapons, for example.

You and I both know it would not stop at that though, particularly when someone who gets through that type of background check (like the Uvalde shooter would have) does something. It would inevitably eventually prevent anybody who has ever been prescribed an anti-anxiety drug from purchasing a firearm, IMO.

Such a logical fallacy. That there is no PERFECT solution doesn't mean you just work towards no even partial solution. Just because airbags don't prevent all traffic deaths doesn't mean we just get rid of airbags.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Aren't you also making assumptions that they did nothing wrong?

Absolutely not. I stated wait and see

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'd start with any law enforcement documented history of threat to harm self or others or diagnosis of PTSD, schizo affective disorder, or substance abuse. Amend HIPPA to allow national law enforcement only database on this. Tie it to already existing NCIC database. Could be set up in less than a year, easily.

I will freely admit, I have been drunk 5 times this year.... of course it was at home... with my wife... on wine night, but I am sure some government douchenozzle would consider it 'abuse'. So does that substance abuse thingy apply here?

And it is really interesting that you believe there should be a 'database' on people. Even more interesting is that you somehow believe that it could be built for... and most importantly , remain as 'law enforcement only' access. How much of our lives should government be allowed access to? Askin' for a friend.

 

[05_never_again]

Such a logical fallacy. That there is no PERFECT solution doesn't mean you just work towards no even partial solution. Just because airbags don't prevent all traffic deaths doesn't mean we just get rid of airbags.

I'm not skeptical about that solution because said solution isn't perfect. I am skeptical about it because it would not stop there. If I had confidence that your solution would actually stop there, then I would heavily support it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yeah seriously, how does an unemployed, loser EMO teen about to fail HS, find the cash to buy those guns + a backpack full of ammo? He also supposedly had a handgun at the shooting. Where did he get money to buy all of this? Doesn't seem like it was his parents. Something doesn't add up here.

‘Kids Be Scared’: Texas School Gunman Bought Two Rifles on His 18th Birthday

Sadly, I think I can say the public confidence in our alphabet agencies is not what it once was and the idea of a conspiracy of some sort can no longer simply be dismissed out of hand, however unlikely in a situation like this.

This thing is getting stranger by the minute. You were on top of this.

 

[allvol123]

This thing is getting stranger by the minute. You were on top of this.

Can I hear your theory?

 

[theFallGuy]

Such a logical fallacy. That there is no PERFECT solution doesn't mean you just work towards no even partial solution. Just because airbags don't prevent all traffic deaths doesn't mean we just get rid of airbags.

then why did your boy Chuck Schumer just block a partial solution?

 

[McDad]

JFC

Sorry. This issue is so much bigger than your religious dogma and zealotry. Think of the kids.

 

[Dirty Vol]

Hot take: CRT and other -ism-based education is what causes this more than anything.

Dare I say funding CRT and the other BS.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

Every time I read something like this ^^^^ I think of this:

 

[Wireless1]

Trump's more likely to win the spelling bee than prayer doing jack squat.

Well we now know you have less faith than a mustard seed.

 

[Gandalf]

Hot take: CRT and other -ism-based education is what causes this more than anything.

Oh but they are thinking that CRT and such is the way to stop it. Basically by feminizing young men, they get rid of potential aggressive types. Mind you, the real goal is to eliminate potential threats to their dominant rule but a side benefit is eliminating testosterone driven young men. The problem with that is while it may work on many, some become broken and instead of directing their anger and depression inwardly (as is planned for them), they unleash their confused rage on the nearest target, never realizing that the real culprits are often far away.

 

[clarksvol00]

I will freely admit, I have been drunk 5 times this year.... of course it was at home... with my wife... on wine night, but I am sure some government douchenozzle would consider it 'abuse'. So does that substance abuse thingy apply here?

And it is really interesting that you believe there should be a 'database' on people. Even more interesting is that you somehow believe that it could be built for... and most importantly , remain as 'law enforcement only' access. How much of our lives should government be allowed access to? Askin' for a friend.

And you claim to be a pilot!

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'd start with any law enforcement documented history of threat to harm self or others or diagnosis of PTSD, schizo affective disorder, or substance abuse. Amend HIPPA to allow national law enforcement only database on this. Tie it to already existing NCIC database. Could be set up in less than a year, easily.

So tons of military vets, someone who went thru trauma and may be in therapy for it, a teenage girl who went through a bout of depression or anorexia as a teen, and any black male who was part of a gang and every person who ever drank alcohol or smoked weed? That should cover it right?