19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[Rickyvol77]

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

So Olympic gun sports are a felony? Shooting and hunting for people under 21 should be illegal?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Hot take: CRT and other -ism-based education is what causes this more than anything.

So CRT causes a Hispanic to kill other Hispanics?

You may want to rethink that hot take. CRT is downstream of the real source of the problem.

Edit: And I realize you included other -isms in your hot take, but those other -isms are a by-product of the main issues.

 

[ButchPlz]

Oh but they are thinking that CRT and such is the way to stop it. Basically by feminizing young men, they get rid of potential aggressive types. Mind you, the real goal is to eliminate potential threats to their dominant rule but a side benefit is eliminating testosterone driven young men. The problem with that is while it may work on many, some become broken and instead of directing their anger and depression inwardly (as is planned for them), they unleash their confused rage on the nearest target, never realizing that the real culprits are often far away.

The testosterone is what keeps people in check. I mean look at this dude- a transsexual raised by his grandma, right? No actual male around to give him proper masculine guidance. The narcissism and chaos we've discussed earlier are all the fruit of a feminizing society.

 

[luthervol]

Luther, here is a pro tip for you: stay out of things you know nothing about. This was a mass casualty event, and it was a very dynamic situation. Mass casualty equals mass panic. Been there, seen that.

The first 2 to 3 minutes of this situation were absolute chaos. Odds are that even if they thought of it at that point they would’ve had a very hard time finding someone who could get them the key.

Stick to “rational and reasonable”. Tactical is not your strong suit.

Pro tip. Don't fall off of your high horse and careful with your assumptions about what someone may or may not know about.
I've never been in the specific situation but have been through multiple trainings.
It was known that he was barricaded in a room full of students. There were officers in the building. Keys were easily accessable.
A locked door cannot be used as a defense for their failure to respond.
Finding a key would have been simple. Another pro tip on the key issue: stay out of things you know nothing about.

 

[ButchPlz]

So CRT causes a Hispanic to kill other Hispanics?

You may want to rethink that hot take. CRT is downstream of the real source of the problem.

Not just CRT (which is why I included other -ism-based education), but the educational system that says everyone deserves attention, that everyone deserves to advance, that everyone is relevant despite their mental illnesses and failures. It's certainly all downstream but the systems of education we have directly encourage people to act out.

Maybe it's best if I say it's an accelerator for this behavior.

 

[luthervol]

I'm not talking about religion (not your definition of religion) . But belief in Christ, in God would stem this hostility. This issue of anger, especially in our kids is due to a growing unbelief in God and an unbelief in truth.
Why fear any consequences if you're just made up of primordial ooz and you're just a rung on the evolution scale? This philosophy, (whether directly or indirectly) is being taught to our kids.

So what was the answer 2130 years ago?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Oh but they are thinking that CRT and such is the way to stop it. Basically by feminizing young men, they get rid of potential aggressive types. Mind you, the real goal is to eliminate potential threats to their dominant rule but a side benefit is eliminating testosterone driven young men. The problem with that is while it may work on many, some become broken and instead of directing their anger and depression inwardly (as is planned for them), they unleash their confused rage on the nearest target, never realizing that the real culprits are often far away.

You are better able in theory to control the masses with effeminized men, but you also have to draw from that same pool for your law enforcement.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not just CRT (which is why I included other -ism-based education), but the educational system that says everyone deserves attention, that everyone deserves to advance, that everyone is relevant despite their mental illnesses and failures. It's certainly all downstream but the systems of education we have directly encourage people to act out.

Maybe it's best if I say it's an accelerator for this behavior.

I got it and edited my comment afterwards.

 

[BreatheUT]

Both of you.

Guess you are familiar with it huh?

 

[volfanhill]

I'm not talking about religion (not your definition of religion) . But belief in Christ, in God would stem this hostility. This issue of anger, especially in our kids is due to a growing unbelief in God and an unbelief in truth.
Why fear any consequences if you're just made up of primordial ooz and you're just a rung on the evolution scale? This philosophy, (whether directly or indirectly) is being taught to our kids.

You are so incapable of controlling your anger you are on how many screen names now?

 

[Wireless1]

Big win for second amendment. Mo guns mo safe. Amirite?

Interesting, 1/4 of those were 1-19 YO in Chicago where guns (building a case for those spouting more guns not less) shouldn't be available, and it looks like 5-10% were murder/suicide where if a gun were not available, a more gruesome method would have been used - or maybe not if CO was used - Sounds like a very strong case for attacking gang violence and mental illness.

 

[AirVol]

Was David Hogg a witness to this shooting?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Pro tip. Don't fall off of your high horse and careful with your assumptions about what someone may or may not know about.
I've never been in the specific situation but have been through multiple trainings.
It was known that he was barricaded in a room full of students. There were officers in the building. Keys were easily accessable.
A locked door cannot be used as a defense for their failure to respond.
Finding a key would have been simple. Another pro tip on the key issue: stay out of things you know nothing about.

You are making a lot of assumptions here

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No obligation to protect... except their kids.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

No obligation to protect... except their kids.

 

[kiddiedoc]

A few interesting stats, since I've already "revealed so much about myself" LOL:

The FBI collects data on “active shooter incidents,” which it defines as “one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.” Using the FBI’s definition, 38 people – excluding the shooters – died in such incidents in 2020.

Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders.

Black children and teens are 14 times more likely than white children and teens of the same age to die by gun homicide.

Gun homicides are concentrated in cities—half of all gun homicides took place in just 127 cities, which represented nearly a quarter of the US population. Within these cities, gun homicides are most prevalent in racially segregated neighborhoods with high rates of poverty.

References available upon request

 

[C-south]

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

And raise the voting age to 30.

 

[508mikey]

Was David Hogg a witness to this shooting?

long bike ride for him

 

[Wireless1]

Yeah, 4300 kids shot and killed a year is no biggie. No need to consider sensible reforms to try to cut it to say, 3800. Just ask the parents of the 500 we aren't going to bother with.

Nearly 1300 of those "gun" deaths were suicide. I think this should have been the headline. You think with stronger gun laws all those children would still be alive?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Was David Hogg a witness to this shooting?

He'll be along any minute

 

[C-south]

Pro tip. Don't fall off of your high horse and careful with your assumptions about what someone may or may not know about.
I've never been in the specific situation but have been through multiple trainings.
It was known that he was barricaded in a room full of students. There were officers in the building. Keys were easily accessable.
A locked door cannot be used as a defense for their failure to respond.
Finding a key would have been simple. Another pro tip on the key issue: stay out of things you know nothing about.

Better pro tip: whatever luther says assume the opposite is true.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

And raise the voting age to 30.

I'd rather see your rights to vote being tied to actual proof of being a taxpayer.

 

[C-south]

I'd rather see your rights to vote being tied to actual proof of being a taxpayer.

It would make sense. But I mean if we’re going to trample on peoples rights let’s do it across the board. The looney libs already have a head start on free speech.

 

[ButchPlz]

I'd rather see your rights to vote being tied to actual proof of being a taxpayer.

Part of me unironically buys into the Starship Troopers approach.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The other part about assault rifle ban reinstated and I think others have suggested have to be 21 to buy. I'd make it 25, but 21 is a start. And no, parents cannot buy as gifts or allow access to guns by underage persons. Make that a felony.

Fine as long as we can prohibit voting till 25 in exchange. do we have an agreement?