'19 VA QB Brendon Clark

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VolFreakJosh said:
You’d rather take a QB that’s not even on an NFL roster than one that’s considered one of the best QBs in the league right now?
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And it’s not like Rodgers had a crap college stint. One and out at Cal because he blew up as a possible #1 pick.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You’d rather take a QB that’s not even on an NFL roster than one that’s considered one of the best QBs in the league right now?
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It wasn't my quote, but, I would take college Tebow over college Rogers any day. Give me Tommy Frazier as well!
 
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The question continues to be where will Tennessee go at the quarterback position. Tennessee offered QB Brendon Clark (Wake Forest commit) late last week. At this point, Clark is still heavily committed to the Demon Deacons, but with his recruitment seeing a recent spike (UT, Clemson offered recently, with Notre Dame and Michigan circling), Clark is at least considering some summer visits.
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VolFreakJosh said:
You’d rather take a QB that’s not even on an NFL roster than one that’s considered one of the best QBs in the league right now?
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If that QB wins a heisman and plays on 2 National Championship teams, then yes.


NFL success is nice and all, but I want Tennessee to win more than I want our players to be successful after they leave.
 
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Sleegro said:
First of all, gross. And B, did any of that list have bad college careers. Coming up with a college list is more work than I'm willing to do, and nfl success is a pretty good indication that they probably had college success. I didn't even include guys like Bortles and Tannehill because there are more questions about their long term future but I do think Bortles will be a good QB in the league for a long time. I do have bias there though so I left him off.
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My only point is I’d rather have a great CFB QB than a great NFL QB. You’re right to point out that those things aren’t mutually exclusive, though.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
If that QB wins a heisman and plays on 2 National Championship teams, then yes.


NFL success is nice and all, but I want Tennessee to win more than I want our players to be successful after they leave.
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Which QB would you rather have running TENNESSEE’s current projected offense?
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
My only point is I’d rather have a great CFB QB than a great NFL QB. You’re right to point out that those things aren’t mutually exclusive, though.
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I get it, but my point is that a lot of people are worried about this guy's low rating and it may not be as big a deal as they're making it. I think we can agree that the best qb's in the world play in the NFL. And I was showing that over half of the best starting qbs in the world currently were rated equal or lower to this guy coming out of HS. Another example is A&M. Kevin Sumlin is a pretty good offensive coach. He had as many 5 star qbs as anybody in the nation the past few years. The only qb that ever really worked for him was a 3 star Johnny Manziel. I'm not saying this kid is the best prospect this year. Just that he seems to have all the tools and measurables to be a good qb and ranking QBs is a little bit of a crapshoot at every level. So the fact that he's not a 5 star in his junior year is probably not a big deal.
 
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Sleegro said:
I get it, but my point is that BIG ORANGE TRAIN is worried about this guy's low rating and it may not be as big a deal as they're making it. I think we can agree that the best qb's in the world play in the NFL. And I was showing that over half of the best starting qbs in the world currently were rated equal or lower to this guy coming out of HS. Another example is A&M. Kevin Sumlin is a pretty good offensive coach. He had as many 5 star qbs as anybody in the nation the past few years. The only qb that ever really worked for him was a 3 star Johnny Manziel. I'm not saying this kid is the best prospect this year. Just that he seems to have all the tools and measurables to be a good qb and ranking QBs is a little bit of a crapshoot at every level. So the fact that he's not a 5 star in his junior year is probably not a big deal BIG ORANGE TRAIN.
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Guess it's ok for VN we offered now that clemson offered and Michigan/Notre dame are making their pitches.
 
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So Pruitt offers a 3*, because he knows what a good football player looks like, and:
a) Other P5 schools offer and eventually recruit gets bumped to 4*. Pruitt is a genius.
b) Nobody of consequence offers and recruit stays 3*. Pruitt can't recruit and is settling.

Is that basically correct?
 
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SSVol said:
So Pruitt offers a 3*, because he knows what a good football player looks like, and:
a) Other P5 schools offer and eventually recruit gets bumped to 4*. Pruitt is a genius.
b) Nobody of consequence offers and recruit stays 3*. Pruitt can't recruit and is settling.

Is that basically correct?
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If you are talking about what people will say on here, yes that is correct. If you are talking about the truth of the matter, who knows.
 
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Sleegro said:
If you are talking about what people will say on here, yes that is correct. If you are talking about the truth of the matter, who knows.
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I'm pretty sure Pruitt's opinions are not dependent on others agreeing with him. Reality will be predicated on results. VN will VN.
 
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Brendon Clark has been committed to Wake Forest for nearly a year, but the 2019 quarterback from Midlothian Manchester (Va.) has seen his recruitment spike recently following an impressive performance at the Nike Opening Regional Camp in Charlotte. Clark earned MVP honors among a solid group of quarterbacks, with both Tennessee and Clemson quickly taking notice.

The Vols were also impressed with Clark’s junior film, extending a scholarship to the 6-foot-2, 209-pound quarterback earlier this week. “(My recruitment) is blowing up a little bit,” Clark told VolQuest. “A lot of people are coming in to watch me throw.”

Clemson offered this week, too, and Notre Dame stopped by to see Clark on Tuesday. Michigan is also actively recruiting the Virginia native. Clark said his high school coach expects others schools to join the fray soon, too.

So far, Clark described his communication with Tennessee’s staff as “moderate,” saying he’s talked with offensive coordinator Tyson Helton and tight ends Brian Niedermeyer multiple times. The Vols are pushing for a visit, but Clark remains solidly committed to the Deamon Decons and wants to discuss any summer plans with his family first.

“I haven’t really thought about any of that just yet,” said Clark on visiting Tennessee, Clemson or anywhere else. “I’m still committed and I don’t want to just burn that off with Wake Forest by taking visits or anything like that.”

In 2017, Clark led the Lancers to a 11-2 record, throwing for more than 2000 yards with 28 touchdowns and four interceptions. He also added 600 yards and 12 scores on the ground. He’s a big, athletic quarterback, who described his game by saying, “I like to say I’m a Tim Tebow who can throw from the pocket.”
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-VQ
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Def sounds like a take then :)
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Sounds like he is concerned that these teams are making conditional offers and he is afraid of losing a solid place with WF by taking visits...if he is that good he doesn't belong at WF anyway, and he has nothing to worry about by taking visits to higher profile blue bloods.
 
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gunner said:
Not SEC but Winston from FSU is 5 Star to get drafted and so was Deshaun Watson from Clemson.

I certainly get your point, a 5 Star prospect isn’t necessarily a future college star and NFL first round pick.
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Well honestly, I was more curious than anything about recent SEC QB ratings translating to draft success than trying to point out anything. I was surprised at what I found. To counter what I found, how many 4*-5* SEC QB’s have been draft eligible the last 6-7 years? I didn’t go into that level of research.

Probably what I’d rather have than high ratings is a guy that other top level QB coaches are after.
 
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k-town_king said:
The chance of a higher ranked guy turning out good is much better. No debate.
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This.

There was an analysis done some years back using Rivals. They looked at all the classes back to 2001 and assigned a probability for “success” (can’t remember all the qualifiers for success, but some were- became a starter, got drafted, etc.)

The breakdown:

5 Star - 50%
4 Star - 38%
3 Star - 11%
2 Star - 3%

Stars are not a Guarantee of success, they are a Predictor of success.
 
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