2 LA Officers Ambushed

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k-town_king said:
Lmao.

Oooh scary.

Way to cut a bunch of crap together.

Not one leader of any movement not any Dem party leaders have endorsed violence.

Womp womp womp try again
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Oh please, the base is now very violent and radical. There are videos everywhere of dems rioting, beating and killing people. "Leaders" in your party are pushing these actions
 
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BreatheUT said:
The more time that past the more I think this vermin deserves the death penalty.

How much are athletes like Lebron James emboldening shooters like this? This happened in his city.
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Can you think of anything specifically James or any other celebrity athlete has done to encourage this act?
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Can you think of anything specifically James or any other celebrity athlete has done to encourage this act?
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I'll start by saying that the link between inflammatory rhetoric and individual action is generally non-existent. Doesn't matter if it's rhetoric from the right or left. So I don't think Lebron has any responsibility for this act any more than I think Trump or whoever has responsibility for other acts.

That said, if Lebron wants solutions and real change he should use his considerable reach to speak out against this heinous act. So long as he only speaks to one side of the issue I think he's missing an opportunity to advance the cause.

We've been told repeatedly from the left that "silence is violence". Surely everyone can speak out against this?
 
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k-town_king said:
Lmao.

Oooh scary.

Way to cut a bunch of crap together.

Not one leader of any movement not any Dem party leaders have endorsed violence.

Womp womp womp try again
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That is a bold faced lie. I'm not going to look anything up for you but I have seen plenty of videos of the D leaders calling for violence the last 10-15 years.
So.....you sir, are a liar liar pants on fire!
 
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volinbham said:
I'll start by saying that the link between inflammatory rhetoric and individual action is generally non-existent. Doesn't matter if it's rhetoric from the right or left. So I don't think Lebron has any responsibility for this act any more than I think Trump or whoever has responsibility for other acts.

That said, if Lebron wants solutions and real change he should use his considerable reach to speak out against this heinous act. So long as he only speaks to one side of the issue I think he's missing an opportunity to advance the cause.

We've been told repeatedly from the left that "silence is violence". Surely everyone can speak out against this?
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I could not agree with you more except for your first sentence. As we've seen for decades and especially in the last few years, dullards will latch on to their favorite figure and treat their words as the gospel. There's 100% a correlation, but I agree with you in that your actions are your responsibility alone, regardless of what you think.

That being said, all sorts of people have been missing opportunities to use their clout effectively. Everyone has an agenda, but apparently none of them are interested in hearing the other side and facing their own deficiencies and flaws.

It would be nice if someone with a wide-reaching voice would say something along the lines of "police brutality is bad, attacking police is bad, let's work on stopping both." How simple is that? What's the risk/reward?
 
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volinbham said:
posting a message about killing cops counts as emboldening? BLM then has emboldened the shooter.
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Do you know what BLM is? There are peaceful protests during the day. What happens at night is not even BLM protesters. BLM organizers denounce rioting, because it takes away from the message.
Who knew demanding equal treatment was such a trigger point.
 
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k-town_king said:
What does that have to do with each other?


What does Lebron have to do with this. How is it the basketball player that has been there for less than two years is supposed to stop this or have helped cause this?
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He can’t speak out against real injustice and a criminal epidemic?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Do you know what BLM is? There are peaceful protests during the day. What happens at night is not even BLM protesters. BLM organizers denounce rioting, because it takes away from the message.
Who knew demanding equal treatment was such a trigger point.
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Define "equal treatment"
 
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C-south said:
He can’t speak out against real injustice and a criminal epidemic?
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Criminal epidemic? I guess you aren't old enough to remember the 80s and 90s. Crime is low compare to then.

Lmao. More scary punks scared of some mythical boogeyman.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Do you know what BLM is? There are peaceful protests during the day. What happens at night is not even BLM protesters. BLM organizers denounce rioting, because it takes away from the message.
Who knew demanding equal treatment was such a trigger point.
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I've seen plenty of messaging from BLM leaders that is violent towards cops.

BLM isn't just protests. It is a political organization. All political organizations are subject to critique. Who knew that offering a critique was such a trigger point.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I could not agree with you more except for your first sentence. As we've seen for decades and especially in the last few years, dullards will latch on to their favorite figure and treat their words as the gospel. There's 100% a correlation, but I agree with you in that your actions are your responsibility alone, regardless of what you think.

That being said, all sorts of people have been missing opportunities to use their clout effectively. Everyone has an agenda, but apparently none of them are interested in hearing the other side and facing their own deficiencies and flaws.

It would be nice if someone with a wide-reaching voice would say something along the lines of "police brutality is bad, attacking police is bad, let's work on stopping both." How simple is that? What's the risk/reward?
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Non-existent was too strong a word though 100% correlation is likewise too strong.

Let me put it this way; I think the attribution is used more frequently than merited - each side loves to blame inflammatory rhetoric of "the other side" for bad actors.
 
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volinbham said:
I've seen plenty of messaging from BLM leaders that is violent towards cops.

BLM isn't just protests. It is a political organization. All political organizations are subject to critique. Who knew that offering a critique was such a trigger point.
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Please show your work. Just because you see a post or meme that has BLM scrawled across it does not make it a BLM sanctioned message.
 
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volinbham said:
I've seen plenty of messaging from BLM leaders that is violent towards cops.

BLM isn't just protests. It is a political organization. All political organizations are subject to critique. Who knew that offering a critique was such a trigger point.
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If that's true, it needs to be put on blast, and BLM needs to clean that up immediately. I haven't seen such messaging personally.
 
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volinbham said:
BLM sanctioned - as in "We're BLM and we approve this message"?
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nope....that does not equal sanctioned. There are literal directors of the organization. That put out messaging. If I print something up and scrawl BLM approved this message, does not means that it comes from BLM.
Be smarter....do better.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
nope....that does not equal sanctioned. There are literal directors of the organization. That put out messaging. If I print something up and scrawl BLM approved this message, does not means that it comes from BLM.
Be smarter....do better.
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Glad to see you agree then that anything negative posted by someone who says they support Trump or Republicans in no way reflects Trump or Republican leadership.
 
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k-town_king said:
Criminal epidemic? I guess you aren't old enough to remember the 80s and 90s. Crime is low compare to then.

Lmao. More scary punks scared of some mythical boogeyman.
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I forgot only 13 killed each other this past weekend. That’s your “moral victory”.
 
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