2008 Titans

#1,876
#1,876
orangetanker11 said:
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Justin Miller was a pro bowl return specialist for the Jets. Not a bad pickup considering Chris Carr is gone. But I would love to get Torry Holt in here.
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He was on the Jets but I believe they cut him before last season so Oakland picked him up or traded for him. Holt would be great. Holt, Gage, and Washington would make a pretty solid receiving corp. Hopefully they would still draft someone early too.
 
#1,877
#1,877
Ok, so with the recent signings, Cortland Finnegan is going to have to CB 1 up on Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson (twice), and Randy Moss - w/ Tom Brady - all in the upcoming season.

wow, good luck guy
 
#1,878
#1,878
TrueOrange said:
Ok, so with the recent signings, Cortland Finnegan is going to have to CB 1 up on Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson (twice), and Randy Moss - w/ Tom Brady - all in the upcoming season.

wow, good luck guy
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That's when it's good to have two Pro Bowl-caliber safeties.
 
#1,881
#1,881
VKAman said:
We were working on a trade for him, but it fell through.
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yeah, saw about all that on other boards. Word was that the rams had wanted a 5th round pick that could turn into a 2nd round pick next season and the titans left the table after that...

personally, I would have taken that. There's no way holt would put up the numbers necessary for that in the Titans passing offense, but I don't work for their FO
 
#1,882
#1,882
The rumored Holt trade fell through cuz Holt was not willing to re-structure his contract. I know his cap hit for the Rams was $10+ million. I think his base salary for next season was $6+ million, and was due a roster bonus between $1-2 million. The Titans weren't willing to take that on, especially since Holt was in the last year of his contract.
 
#1,883
#1,883
Green Bay matched the Titans offer on Restricted Free Agent CB Jarrett Bush, meaning the packers keep him.

So now the only CBs on the Titans roster are the starters Nick Harper and Cortland Finnegan, the nickelback Vince Fuller, and then the 7th round guy from the practice squad.

Think I know what they are drafting now...
 
#1,884
#1,884
Alphonso Smith/DJ Moore/Darius Butler would be good. All 3 have return ability, with 'Phonzo and Moore having PR skills and Butler having KR skill.

CB is a deep position, and the 2nd Tier guys are really jumbled. We can address it later if we need to, which will allow us to go BPA.

Either way, I'm done tryin' to predict where MR will go in the Draft, especially after the Griffin and CJ picks.

Also, Packers fans HATE Jarrett Bush. :D
 
#1,885
#1,885
TrueOrange said:
Green Bay matched the Titans offer on Restricted Free Agent CB Jarrett Bush, meaning the packers keep him.

So now the only CBs on the Titans roster are the starters Nick Harper and Cortland Finnegan, the nickelback Vince Fuller, and then the 7th round guy from the practice squad.

Think I know what they are drafting now...
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Not necessarily. We will sign another CB, and we could draft a DE or OLB as well. It is mostly a matter of whether we think it is more urgent to replace Nick Harper or Jevon Kearse. I would think they would want to replace Kearse first, but it could be either one. And Bulluck's contract expires after this season. The Titans have shown that in the draft they look ahead. See Jason Jones and Craig Stevens last year.
 
#1,886
#1,886
TitanHope said:
Alphonso Smith/DJ Moore/Darius Butler would be good. All 3 have return ability, with 'Phonzo and Moore having PR skills and Butler having KR skill.

CB is a deep position, and the 2nd Tier guys are really jumbled. We can address it later if we need to, which will allow us to go BPA.

Either way, I'm done tryin' to predict where MR will go in the Draft, especially after the Griffin and CJ picks.

Also, Packers fans HATE Jarrett Bush. :D
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I've kind of tried to predict MR. He seems to go with underappreciated guys who were not supposed to be first-rounders but performed really well in college (though they usually didn't get much recognition for it). Since Alphonso Smith punched another player or something like that, I would predict we go with Darius Butler. But I could also see us taking DE Michael Johnson from Georgia Tech if he's there; if we can make him consistent, he can become an absolute monster.
 
#1,888
#1,888
VKAman said:
New returner: Mark Jones (a former Vol, by the way)
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yep. always good to see an old vol name pop up. Hope he's able to give the teams good returns - it's something that's usually pretty essential for the Titans gameplan.

And now I really want to find some pics or vids of his TD catch against UGA :)
 
#1,891
#1,891
Torry Holt to visit Titans today.

Sounds to be between Titans and Jags...some say titans would be better fit but that Jags really need a receiver or the help more
 
#1,892
#1,892
TrueOrange said:
Torry Holt to visit Titans today.

Sounds to be between Titans and Jags...some say titans would be better fit but that Jags really need a receiver or the help more
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I don't see the Jags being very good for a few years. I think he's at a point in his career where he would want to win so I think the Titans have more to offer.
 
#1,893
#1,893
615 Vol said:
I don't see the Jags being very good for a few years. I think he's at a point in his career where he would want to win so I think the Titans have more to offer.
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That's true. the titans have more to offer in terms of winning now, but they can't really guarantee the number 1 wideout spot or that'd he be a go to guy for them.

The jags really can kinda say both (or at least #1 on depth chart), they need some wr help in a bad way too

...and of course, they'll probably throw more money holt's way than the titans would
 
#1,894
#1,894
VKAman said:
I've kind of tried to predict MR. He seems to go with underappreciated guys who were not supposed to be first-rounders but performed really well in college (though they usually didn't get much recognition for it). Since Alphonso Smith punched another player or something like that, I would predict we go with Darius Butler. But I could also see us taking DE Michael Johnson from Georgia Tech if he's there; if we can make him consistent, he can become an absolute monster.
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I've given up on predicting MR, lol. I just am content with him picking the 1st RD'er, and debating the picks beyond that. He landed diamonds in Griff and Dash, and with our positional coaching staff, I trust them.

But, it just boggles my mind when he picks Griffin and then follows it up with Chris Henry. But! I blame Henry of Mike Sherman, who was sooo sure that he could coach Henry into becoming the next Larry Johnson. At the end of the season, ole Sherman bolts for the OC job in Washington...and now we're stuck with him. Hopefully Ernest Byner can do something with him.

In my opinion, we have the two best line coaches in the NFL in Mike Munchak and Jim Washburn. Howard Mudd and Russ Grim are excellent OL coaches, but look at what Munch has done with our OL. Draft 2 OT's in '05, and they're our franchise OT's. Plug in anybody at the OG spots and have success. Other than the nervous snaps during the playoffs, remember how Leroy Harris just handled Haloti Ngata in his first start?! Then Wash who loves the DL and coaching the players. He has a great scheme, which was a big part of Haynesworth's success, and he and the front office can find players who fit his scheme and succeed, ala Kyle Vanden Bosch, Tony Brown, and Dave Ball. I think Chuck Cecil/Marcus Robertson deserve high praise with what they've done in the secondary, producing 3 Pro Bowlers last season. They've groomed Griff along perfectly, and have helped a 7th RD CB/FS 'tweener who was looked at by most teams as a return specialist/special teamer become one of the top CB's in the NFL.

That's why I prefer to wait on OL, DL, and CB positions until a little bit later than it appears we should. That is, unless a huge value drops to us. As for Alphonso Smith, I love him personally. Watching his tape I see a fiesty, confident guy who makes play after play. His tenacity and scrapyness screams "Titans DB" to me. At times, it looks like he's baiting opposing QB's to throw at him. I think he'll be an excellent pro CB. Darius Butler is coming on crazy strong though, and depending who you ask, could be the best pure CB in the Draft (There's a controversy over Malcolm Jenkins being a better FS than CB, Vontae Davis in a thick-headed athlete, and Phonzo Smith is short and slower than thought). His hips are insanely fluid and can flip like a flick of the wrist. That translates awesome for a man-corner. I wouldn't mind either at all, but the little voice inside me says, "You know they can get Mike Mickens in the 3rd and be just fine. And Captain Munnerlyn has the scrappy tenacity that fits the Titans DB identity, and he'll be there in the 4th RD...maybe even the 5th!"

I have a feeling Wash is having wet dreams about Michael Johnson, and I don't blame him. I've watched MJ play, and people are too harsh on him. For one, he had a productive season in his first season starting, so to bring up that he hasn't had 3 10-sack seasons is unfair. Second, he doesn't take as many plays off as people think. GT ran a 2-gap DL scheme. What people viewed as engaging the OT and just staying there isn't him taking the play off - it's him holding his gap. That's what DL's in a 2-gapper do. It's two big hoss DT's in the middle to eat up space, blockers, and basically big bodies. The DE's are supposed to hold their edge. MJ would engage, read the play (which he needs to be quicker about), and the pursure the ball. In pass rushing situations, he was allowed to use his talent, and use it well. Wash's scheme isn't a 2-gapper. It's an attack scheme. That's why Fat Al would get winded - cuz he was always moving forward and not just sitting there holding his gap. MJ would be the Freak 2.0 in our scheme.

God I'm excited about the Draft!!!
 
#1,895
#1,895
Tennessee Titans 2009 schedule released:

Week:
1 @ Pittsburgh Steelers Thurs, Sept. 10, 8:30 PM (NBC)
2 vs Houston Texans, Sun., Sept. 20, 1:00 PM (CBS)
3 @ New York Jets, Sun., Sept. 27, 4:15 PM (CBS)
4 @ Jacksonville Jaguars, Sun., Oct. 4, 1:00 PM (CBS)
5 vs Indianapolis Colts, Sun., Oct. 11, 8:20 PM (NBC)
6 @ New England Patriots, Sun., Oct. 18, 4:15 PM (CBS)
7 Bye Week
8 vs Jacksonville Jaguars, Sun., Nov. 01, 4:05 PM (CBS)
9 @ San Francisco 49ers, Sun., Nov. 08, 4:15 PM (CBS)
10 vs Buffalo Bills, Sun., Nov. 15, 1:00 PM (CBS)
11 @ Houston Texans, Mon., Nov. 23, 8:30 PM (ESPN)
12 vs Arizona Cardinals, Sun., Nov. 29, 1:00 PM (FOX)
13 @ Indianapolis Colts, Sun., Dec. 6, 1:00 PM (CBS)
14 vs St. Louis Rams, Sun., Dec. 13, 1:00 PM (FOX)
15 vs Miami Dolphins, Sun., Dec. 20, 1:00 PM (CBS)
16 vs San Diego Chargers, Fri., Dec. 25, 7:30 PM (NFLN)
17 @ Seattle Seahawks, Sun., Jan. 03, 4:15 PM (CBS)
 
#1,896
#1,896
What a way to start the season... first 6 games are all gonna be tough. Houston at home being the easiest and that is an improved team that always plays the Titans tough. The trips to the west coast don't fall at too bad of times with the San Fran trip after a home game and the Seattle trip after a Fri. night game the previous week. The second half of the schedule is def. easier but they've just gotta be able to tread water for the first half.
 
#1,897
#1,897
Tough draw, but having to play pats, steelers, cardinals was going to make it tough anyways.

Agreed. they're going to have to tread those first 6 games and come out of their with hopefully only 1-2 losses, no more than 3 or they're going to have trouble last week of the season as things fall into place. only 1-2 losses would be an ideal too since in a stretch 10 games long, they will probably lose 1-3 games. And of course one or two of those bad teams in the latter half will have gotten better also, always happens. Season could hinge on that first 6 weeks
 
#1,898
#1,898
I'm also starting to think that the Ravens got a really good draw, as far as schedule among the good teams. They've got a schedule ranked 28 out of 32. Sure, a few of those teams will turn it around like always happens, but most of them probably won't. This is going to get analysts and writers on their bandwagon as it being their year for a Super Bowl run.
 
#1,900
#1,900
Brewerw said:
Maybe they can bring in Bolden... Who knows?
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Word is on that is that the titans haven't talked to the cards yet - nor did they really talk to them earlier - probably indicating that they are not interested in making a trade for him.

Also there's some feeling that since the titans picks are so low in the draft, they would probably have to give more than a 1st and 3rd since both of their picks would be so much lower than any other team that offers
 
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