2013 F Austin Nichols (Memphis Briarcrest)

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#2,753
MemphisCanes said:
Year Four- The narrative is "can he win in the NCAA's and can he beat top 25 teams"? Memphis eats C-USA alive for the second year in a row, but loses most significant OOC games. Pastner finally gets his first NCAA win and Top 25 win, though. Has another top 4 recruiting class coming in, along with a bevvy of seniors for next season.

I see improvement. He's not on the Shaka Smart/Brad Stephens parabola of success as a young coach, but not many young coaches are.
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Who was the Top 25 win?
I don't think Southern Miss was ranked. Was St Mary's ranked?
I thought he entered the NCAAT still with no Top 25 wins and then beat an 11 seed before losing.
 
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#2,755
VolinMichigan said:
Link? j/k


I'm not a fan of Memphis or Josh Pastner, but he is definitely not one of the two worst coaches in college basketball.
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To say he's one of the two worst isn't even a legitimate argument. Blanket statement like that is absurd and lacks intelligence . There's no point.
 
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It's funny I remember a certain Memphis poster telling me the expectation was sweet 16 for this years team yet is now on here saying that a first round loss was improvement and met expectations....ok.

Pastner almost blew that game against St. Mary's, that would have been freaking epic. Like I've said, 2nd most talent in the country and can't do anything with it...if I was Memphis I'd be pushing him to take the USC job. You can find someone else who can recruit Memphis, right now that's the only good thing he's doing.
 
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#2,767
MemphisCanes said:
St. Mary's.
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I just checked and saw they were 25th in the Coaches Poll (32nd in AP).
"Last Four In" doesn't exactly scream Top 25. I guess that technically counts. A lot of people who aren't Memphis fans will probably enter next season saying he still has zero Top 25 wins. Once the tournaments starts, the only "Top 25" that matters is the teams the Selection Committee decides are 1-25.

FWIW, I'm in the camp that believes that one doesn't count. Beating an 11 seed that had to win one of the Dayton play-in games but happens to be ranked 25th in the Coaches Poll doesn't get the Top 25 monkey off of his back, IMO.
 
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#2,768
MemphisVol04 said:
St. Mary's wasn't a consensus top 25 team, think they were in one poll and out the other.

Anytime pastner runs into a team with equal talent he loses.
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So is the knock on him going to be "he can't beat consenuss top 25 teams" hereafter? And when he does, what will it be then?

St. Mary's has a future NBA first rounder, UT probably has at least 2, how many does Memphis have?
 
#2,769
#2,769
MemphisCanes said:
Again, watch out where your throw rocks around your glass house, boudreax.
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Looky here Sparky.. I'm not saying we don't suck. But I am saying we beat 2 Sweet 16 teams. More than your homeboy Pastner can say.


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#2,770
ukvols said:
I just checked and saw they were 25th in the Coaches Poll (32nd in AP).
"Last Four In" doesn't exactly scream Top 25. I guess that technically counts. A lot of people who aren't Memphis fans will probably enter next season saying he still has zero Top 25 wins. Once the tournaments starts, the only "Top 25" that matters is the teams the Selection Committee decides are 1-25.

FWIW, I'm in the camp that believes that one doesn't count. Beating an 11 seed that had to win one of the Dayton play-in games but happens to be ranked 25th in the Coaches Poll doesn't get the Top 25 monkey off of his back, IMO.
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Look guys, I don't vote on the top 25, I think "wins against the top 25" is a stupid metric for success.

But I'm not going to sit here and discuss whether St. Mary's is or is not a top 25 team, when on the date that we beat them, they were ranked 25th in the Country.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
Looky here Sparky.. I'm not saying we don't suck. But I am saying we beat 2 Sweet 16 teams. More than your homeboy Pastner can say.


*Ovvverrrrrrrated. claaaaap claaap clapp clap clap clap*

*Ovvverrrrrrrated. claaaaap claaap clapp clap clap clap*
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Ok man. When do you guys hang the banners for beating those two teams?
 
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#2,772
MemphisCanes said:
So is the knock on him going to be "he can't beat consenuss top 25 teams" hereafter? And when he does, what will it be then?

St. Mary's has a future NBA first rounder, UT probably has at least 2, how many does Memphis have?
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The knock is he has never beaten one of the best 25 teams in the country. How's that?
They were an 11 seed. The only people whose opinions mattered had St. Mary's nowhere close to the Top 25. That said, they did place Memphis in the Top 25.
 
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