2013 F Austin Nichols (Memphis Briarcrest)

You can choose believe me or not, but I pretty much knew from the jump that JW3 was not going to UT. When other people said that "he was a UT lean" or "if he committed today, he'd go to UT" I bit my tongue and merely let on that I was skeptical. I'm a guest on this board and I don't need to pull someone's card and start a big argument.

He was not coming to UT, plain and simple. People on this board got bad info. As you will see through his college career, that's not necessarily a bad thing, I predict.

I understand your point if you knew what you say did. Me believing you or not is irrelevant at this point. I have no reason not to. What I have a hard time understanding though, is why pretend to have interest and go through the dog-and-pony show if there is genuinely no interest?

Also, check the edit to my earlier post. Don't want what I added to go unnoticed for peacekeeping sake.
 
Galilee isn't the only one, and I was told personally from someone in that family, he was leaning towards the Vols a few weeks prior to his visit. I'll take the word of someone inside that family over your "sources".

I think he (JWIII) was a Georgetown lean early on and I think he was leaning towards UT until he got his feelings hurt when he didn't get as much attention as RH on his visit. Then Missouri came on strong at the end.
 
I think he (JWIII) was a Georgetown lean early on and I think he was leaning towards UT until he got his feelings hurt when he didn't get as much attention as RH on his visit. Then Missouri came on strong at the end.

Bingo, basically what I was told word for word, if UT made him feel wanted and a priority he'd be a VOL committ right now.
 
BTO and VN posters,

Stop pointing fingers, making excuses, and calling a recruit's parents "liars". Stop downgrading AN from #12 to "Top 50 recruit", overrated, way overrated, not 5-Star NBA quality, etc. Certainly won't help you going forward with other high-profile recruits. UT/CCM could be totally right with the "facts" but somehow Nichols goes to UM. Fix the "somehow" and be ready next time.

Here's something obvious (now): When is a verbal commitment not a commitment? When it is not announced publically (whatever the reason). When was the door really shut on further communication? Pastner/two assts were in-home after Auburn (Sunday night); read UT was there on Monday. Why no announcement?

And, LMAO, if you really think (if it was up to him) Austin would be a Vol, watch the video on M Roar front page. Kid is dedicated to winning and feels a National Championship is a reachable goal with the UM team in 2013. Good friends with King and Crawford, played with Iverson on All-Star team, played with Shaq at U18 tryouts. Among "friends" on the team and going to college at home/w/family. Sounds just like the AN reasons he preferred UTK. JMO and trying to help. It's been said several times: Move On!

This is a Tennessee message board and Tennessee fans can discuss whatever they would wish in regards to recruits, just like you can post your diatribes lecturing everyone (unfortunately). Oh and next time, don't try to help....
 
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I understand your point if you knew what you say did. Me believing you or not is irrelevant at this point. I have no reason not to. What I have a hard time understanding though, is why pretend to have interest and go through the dog-and-pony show if there is genuinely no interest?

Also, check the edit to my earlier post. Don't want what I added to go unnoticed for peacekeeping sake.

The only reason why I can tell why someone would go through the dog and pony show, is because they like the dog and pony show. Did you catch the kid's announcement ceremony?
 
The only reason why I can tell why someone would go through the dog and pony show, is because they like the dog and pony show. Did you catch the kid's announcement ceremony?

I heard about it. I just think that there has to be 5 places in this country that he would rather see and have genuine intereat moreso than Tennessee. Go to Hawaii, L.A., Miami, etc, if you're just looking for a free trip and red carpet treatment. I just don't get coming to Knoxville, TN for the heck of it with no interest at all in attending UT.
 
Rob Lewis said today it appears from what he was told that Austin's parents never were as comfortable with UT as Austin was..."That's odd on the one hand since the Nichols' family thought enough of the University to send Austin's sister to school here this fall as freshman, but when it came for to finding the best basketball fit for their son, Tennessee apparently didn't measure up, at least in the eyes of Nichols' father from all appearances."

As I said, I think if the decision was Nichols he'd be here, but I truly believe he was given 2 schools to pick from, Duke or Memphis. I also have heard from more people he did inform the staff he was coming to Tennessee during his OV, the parents allowed that to ride, but when it came to decision week they pretty much told him no to UT.

I'm sure some people will bash me for rehashing this, and I'm not trying to best a dead horse, just thought I'd share.
 
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Rob Lewis said today it appears from what he was told that Austin's parents never were as comfortable with UT as Austin was..."That's odd on the one hand since the Nichols' family thought enough of the University to send Austin's sister to school here this fall as freshman, but when it came for to finding the best basketball fit for their son, Tennessee apparently didn't measure up, at least in the eyes of Nichols' father from all appearances."

As I said, I think if the decision was Nichols he'd be here, but I truly believe he was given 2 schools to pick from, Duke or Memphis. I also have heard from more people he did inform the staff he was coming to Tennessee during his OV, the parents allowed that to ride, but when it came to decision week they pretty much told him no to UT.

I'm sure some people will bash me for rehashing this, and I'm not trying to best a dead horse, just thought I'd share.

I understand Duke.

I just can't understand how one watches Pastner coach and run a practice, then watch Martin coach and run a practice...and decide that Pastner is the way to go.

And I'm not even trying to bash Pastner with that. I think the guy is a great assembler of talent, but Martin strikes me as the stronger leader/basketball mind.

Different eyes I guess...
 
I understand Duke.

I just can't understand how one watches Pastner coach and run a practice, then watch Martin coach and run a practice...and decide that Pastner is the way to go.

And I'm not even trying to bash Pastner with that. I think the guy is a great assembler of talent, but Martin strikes me as the stronger leader/basketball mind.

Different eyes I guess...

I think if his Mom is employed by fed ex then that is the reason he has to go to Memphis. She might have list her job if he went to Tennessee. Recruiting is dirty but ccm should have known this and probably had a backup plan
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First time ever pulling this card and actually meaning it...but sounds kinda racist to me IMO.
 
Rob Lewis said today it appears from what he was told that Austin's parents never were as comfortable with UT as Austin was..."That's odd on the one hand since the Nichols' family thought enough of the University to send Austin's sister to school here this fall as freshman, but when it came for to finding the best basketball fit for their son, Tennessee apparently didn't measure up, at least in the eyes of Nichols' father from all appearances."

As I said, I think if the decision was Nichols he'd be here, but I truly believe he was given 2 schools to pick from, Duke or Memphis. I also have heard from more people he did inform the staff he was coming to Tennessee during his OV, the parents allowed that to ride, but when it came to decision week they pretty much told him no to UT.

I'm sure some people will bash me for rehashing this, and I'm not trying to best a dead horse, just thought I'd share.

No sarcasm here, but you've said on several occasions you talked directly to Austin by phone. Why not call him and ask your questions? If you approach him appropriately, he should be able to give you some insight into his decision.
 
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No sarcasm here, but you've said on several occasions you talked directly to Austin by phone. Why not call him and ask your questions? If you approach him appropriately, he should be able to give you some insight into his decision.

What would you expect AN to say? Something like, "Yeah, I really wanted to go there, but dad was being a real douche about the whole thing and mom was crying and begging me, so I went with Memphis".

He's going to give BTO the same vanilla PC answer he'd give anyone else looking for some reasoning, and it probably coincides with the reasons he has already given.
 
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No sarcasm here, but you've said on several occasions you talked directly to Austin by phone. Why not call him and ask your questions? If you approach him appropriately, he should be able to give you some insight into his decision.

You think Austins gonna come out and tell me "hey, I wanted to come to U, but mom and dad said no"????

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Never mind Chris beat me to it.
 
If it is true that Austin's parents did not permit him to choose UT, they did him a serious disservice. Pastner is a recruiting savant, not a basketball coach. CCM appears to be an excellent coach and, potentially even more important for parents, a man of high character. CCM would fully develop Austin and the same cannot be said for Pastner. In fact, it can be said Pastner routinely fails to get much of anything out of his highly regarded recruits. Duke or UT were indisputably better choices for him. Now, UT and Austin will suffer for this misguided choice.
 
If it is true that Austin's parents did not permit him to choose UT, they did him a serious disservice. Pastner is a recruiting savant, not a basketball coach. CCM appears to be an excellent coach and, potentially even more important for parents, a man of high character. CCM would fully develop Austin and the same cannot be said for Pastner. In fact, it can be said Pastner routinely fails to get much of anything out of his highly regarded recruits. Duke or UT were indisputably better choices for him. Now, UT and Austin will suffer for this misguided choice.

Could you give me your top three support statements for the bolded part above?
 

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