2016 SEC MLB Draft Thread

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#351
Not much in terms of SEC signings left to happen. Vandy saw Sheffield as well as Ian Anderson sign today. Both of which they expected.
 
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31VFL said:
Not much in terms of SEC signings left to happen. Vandy saw Sheffield as well as Ian Anderson sign today. Both of which they expected.
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Scout.com teased with some info on some of our signees and a draftee. Any one have the info?
 
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matts42012 said:
Scout.com teased with some info on some of our signees and a draftee. Any one have the info?
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I'm not sure which signee it would be other than Linginfelter or Carter. Pence is expected to come to school. I don't think Carter can get into school. So that leaves one.
 
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Arizona wins game #1 by a score of 3-0. Hopefully the Chantecleers can take game #2 but I did say they needed to take game #1 to have a chance.
 
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Not Signing:
Dominic Taccolini- ARK
Kramer Robertson-LSU
Greg Diechmann- LSU
Cole Freeman- LSU
Brent Rooker- MSU
Jack Kruger- MSU
Wil Crowe- USC
Kyle Serrano- UT
Will Toffey- VU
 
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31VFL said:
Not Signing:
Dominic Taccolini- ARK
Kramer Robertson-LSU
Greg Diechmann- LSU
Cole Freeman- LSU
Brent Rooker- MSU
Jack Kruger- MSU
Wil Crowe- USC
Kyle Serrano- UT
Will Toffey- VU
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3 LSU players there. I thought Kramer Robertson would sign. It's slipping my mind now though. Where was he drafted? What round? Thanks!
 
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BruinVol said:
And get less $
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How do you figure that? If he gets drafted higher then he will have a higher slot value signing. How are you getting that he will make less money next draft?

He will probably be a top 20 rounder next year at the least. That's 12 rounds higher than he went this draft.
 
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tonybologna said:
How do you figure that? If he gets drafted higher then he will have a higher slot value signing. How are you getting that he will make less money next draft?

He will probably be a top 20 rounder next year at the least. That's 12 rounds higher than he went this draft.
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He'll be a senior, loses his leverage...like Andy Cox signing for $5000.00...he'll have to have a great year...a really great year.
 
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vol66 said:
He'll be a senior, loses his leverage...like Andy Cox signing for $5000.00...he'll have to have a great year...a really great year.
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Why do seniors lose their leverage so much when it comes to the MLB draft? I mean NFL players come out of college at all sorts of different ages just like baseball. I don't get what 1 year makes or even 2 years. Do you care to explain the reasoning behind this if you know?

I mean if he improves his stats from this past season by 25% how can he not be drafted quite a bit higher than the 32nd round & make more money than he was being offered this draft? It's only 1 year later & with at least a 25% increase in production that should bring him up a lot higher in the draft. Thanks!
 
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tonybologna said:
Why do seniors lose their leverage so much when it comes to the MLB draft? I mean NFL players come out of college at all sorts of different ages just like baseball. I don't get what 1 year makes or even 2 years. Do you care to explain the reasoning behind this if you know?

I mean if he improves his stats from this past season by 25% how can he not be drafted quite a bit higher than the 32nd round & make more money than he was being offered this draft? It's only 1 year later & with at least a 25% increase in production that should bring him up a lot higher in the draft. Thanks!
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In a few words...seniors coming out of college have no options. If they want to continue to play baseball they have to take what they can get as opposed to juniors who can choose to go back to school.

In this particular instance, I think the kid likes the college experience and he was drafted late, he wasn't going to get a lot of money, so why not go back to school and try to win a championship at one of the premier colleges in all of baseball? Let the chips fall where they will. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely that he will make more money next year than he would have this year.
 
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tonybologna said:
Why do seniors lose their leverage so much when it comes to the MLB draft? I mean NFL players come out of college at all sorts of different ages just like baseball. I don't get what 1 year makes or even 2 years. Do you care to explain the reasoning behind this if you know?

I mean if he improves his stats from this past season by 25% how can he not be drafted quite a bit higher than the 32nd round & make more money than he was being offered this draft? It's only 1 year later & with at least a 25% increase in production that should bring him up a lot higher in the draft. Thanks!
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College Seniors Find Little Leverage - BaseballAmerica.com
 
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vol66 said:
In a few words...seniors coming out of college have no options. If they want to continue to play baseball they have to take what they can get as opposed to juniors who can choose to go back to school.

In this particular instance, I think the kid likes the college experience and he was drafted late, he wasn't going to get a lot of money, so why not go back to school and try to win a championship at one of the premier colleges in all of baseball? Let the chips fall where they will. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely that he will make more money next year than he would have this year.
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I see what you're saying but this still is hairy to me. I mean let me take past players for example. No particular players just in general. Say a junior gets draft in the 15th round & decides that's not goo enough for him. He comes back to college & does really well & improves his draft status fir his senior season.

Now, he not only goes higher in the draft he's a 1st or 2nd round pick. Now, I'm not baseball guru obviously but he's going to get paid more money being drafted in the 1st or 2nd round than the 15th round.

That's a no brainer no matter how you look at it. It also seems to me that it wouldn't matter if he was a senior in high school or a senior in college. I understand the younger star prospect the better thing.

I really do see that but what's the difference in my example that does happen in the draft & other examples? From a 15th round pick to a 1st or 2nd round pick is a huge difference.

OldTimer said:
College Seniors Find Little Leverage - BaseballAmerica.com
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Thanks for the link buddy. :good!:
 
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tonybologna said:
I see what you're saying but this still is hairy to me. I mean let me take past players for example. No particular players just in general. Say a junior gets draft in the 15th round & decides that's not goo enough for him. He comes back to college & does really well & improves his draft status fir his senior season.

Now, he not only goes higher in the draft he's a 1st or 2nd round pick. Now, I'm not baseball guru obviously but he's going to get paid more money being drafted in the 1st or 2nd round than the 15th round.

That's a no brainer no matter how you look at it. It also seems to me that it wouldn't matter if he was a senior in high school or a senior in college. I understand the younger star prospect the better thing.

I really do see that but what's the difference in my example that does happen in the draft & other examples? From a 15th round pick to a 1st or 2nd round pick is a huge difference.



Thanks for the link buddy. :good!:
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I'm not saying it's impossible that your scenario happens, it's just not likely. Generally speaking, a junior drafted around the 15th round is going to go ahead and take it. Think Andrew Lee (11th round), Drake Owenby (12th), AJ Simcox (14th).

In your first scenario, the LSU kid was taken at the bottom of the draft, he'll be lucky as hell to get into the top 10 rounds and if he doesn't the money won't be that much different than what he would have gotten this year, in fact if he goes around the 15th next year it might be less than what he would have made this year...though, as I said...might as well go back to LSU and get the degree if he doesn't already have it and hope to drive up his stock if it's a reality that he can do so while almost assuredly getting a chance to play post season baseball.
 
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Most lower drafted Juniors get 30-50k plus school


Most juniors drafted in rounds 10-20 will get 50-100k and school


It's very rare of for any senior to get those kind of #s regardless of where there are drafted.


A players ability to make any "real" $ in the draft is over if they don't sign out of HS or as a junior. There has only been a few very very rare circumstances that say otherwise and those were high profile agent involved "deals"
 
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OldTimer said:
easier to predict NFL talent than baseball talent IMO...
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NFL draftees go straight to the League and contribute immediately. Baseball players are all projects who must work their way through 2-4 levels to get there. Most won't even make the MLB for 3 or 4 years, if ever.
 
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All you have to do is look at the last several drafts, baseball america and mlb.com show the signing bonus for the top 10 round picks. If a senior does not have an all american type of year and is drafted in the top couple of rounds, he is lucky to get any reasonable signing bonus. Mark Appel from Stanford and Kris Bryant were first rounders and that got a high signing bonus, but most get $10,000 or less. I have seen guys that are all sec seniors lucky to get $20000.00, especially position players. Rounds 4-10 are now full of senior signs. Most juniors drafted 11th-20th round, get around $100000.00 plus 1 year of a full scholarship to thier school when they finish pro baseball. Have to remember, on any given draft less than 20% (baseballamerica says 17.2%) of those drafted will ever touch the major leagues. 5.5% of those will play in majors more than 3 years. Still a fun job, but risky.
 
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Thanks 31VFL for updating this thread, I like to check every couple of days to get back to speed on things goin' on.
 
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