2020 Presidential Race

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AM64 said:
Aren't you of the group that believes that convicted felons who have been released from prison deserve to have their liberties restored? You can always tell how the liberal response will go - ignore the real issue and demean the question and the people questioning. Interesting, too, that we never really get down to the nuts and bolts of government incompetence because of the polarization issue - you are happy this time, so it's not an issue; somebody was happy last time, so it wasn't an issue - simple divide and conquer. Incompetent leaders skate because the electorate can never agree to root out the problems.
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Won't someone think about the sex offenders?!?!?
 
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VolinWayne said:
The Democratic party is pure evil. They will stop at nothing to gain power!


James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) Tweeted:
Hari Sevugan, a former spokesman for the DNC and for President Obama:

“We just launched the Trump Accountability Project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did." AOC, others pushing for apparent blacklist of people who worked with Trump
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Makes no sense.

You get outraged that a group of democrats mention archiving tweets and photos that could possibly implicate trump and his cronies.

Yet, you think nothing of trump screaming fraud and attempting to undermine the entire democratic process.

Which is the biggest immediate threat in your opinion?
 
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“A team of international observers invited by the Trump admin issued a preliminary report giving high marks to the conduct of last week’s elections.

And it criticizes Trump for making baseless allegations that the outcome resulted from systematic fraud.”
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I dont usually watch in Jimmy Kimmel but happened to catch his monologue last night. He showed people prank calling the hotline. I keeled over when someone just played the Price Is Right fail trombone.

John Oliver also gave the email account for the fraud reports with subtle nudge for viewers to write in and write in often.
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Because that's real mature...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Okay, but do you realize that is a larger margin than what Donald Trump won Pennsylvania with in 2016? Hillary Clinton did not claim fraud or demand a recount. She conceded defeat the day after the election.
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PA has passed the auto recount threshold. The SoS said the ballots that came in after the 3 day window was just a couple thousand and wouldn’t have an impact on the final number.

If Trump wants to pay for the recount effort then by all means he is welcome to. Expecting it to change the outcome is futile though.
 
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MarcoVol said:
The same Ted Cruz that kisses Trump’s azz all the time now? What a guy.

Ted Cruz circa 2016:

“It’s not easy to tick me off. I don’t get angry often. But you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. Donald, you’re a sniveling coward, and leave Heidi the hell alone,”

Yet now.....
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I'm not a fan of either guy. I was however impressed with the way he attacked McCabe today. Lindsey was pretty fiery also. And the Dems on the panel were like ho hum let's move on. If you ask me the sleaze Comey is the one that has all the answers. And I don't expect we'll ever get the real truth. I'm sure the Child was watching the whole process and it was fueling his unending tantrum.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Okay, but do you realize that is a larger margin than what Donald Trump won Pennsylvania with in 2016? Hillary Clinton did not claim fraud or demand a recount. She conceded defeat the day after the election.
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Well, that's because she probably knows Republicans don't cheat on elections like Democrats do.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
PA has passed the auto recount threshold. The SoS said the ballots that came in after the 3 day window was just a couple thousand and wouldn’t have an impact on the final number.

If Trump wants to pay for the recount effort then by all means he is welcome to. Expecting it to change the outcome is futile though.
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Yeah... it's over.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
PA has passed the auto recount threshold. The SoS said the ballots that came in after the 3 day window was just a couple thousand and wouldn’t have an impact on the final number.

If Trump wants to pay for the recount effort then by all means he is welcome to. Expecting it to change the outcome is futile though.
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Yea did could get 90,000 there.
 
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headhunter15 said:
You’re right. However, you can’t deny that she and the rest of the MSM ran with the Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense for the entire presidency...

In fairness, they didn’t “suck it up” either.
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In fairness... the Republican Senate DID confirm the Russian interference was in the bag for the Trump campaign.
 
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Boston Vol said:
I guess when Nickelodeon gets better ratings than you do, you get a little desperate.
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Biden hasn't won anything yet. Why would they congratulate him?

Also, what reason would they have for making these lists except to make these people targets of attack? That is exactly what they are doing
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
But there’s no evidence!

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I am holding your feet to the fire on this one. You actually have to go through several links to get to the full affidavit, but this is what he says:

1) He is a trained poll challenger.

2) He saw that they pulled SOME mail in ballots out of the sleeves to see if they were problem ballots that had to be reviewed by hand.

3) He also saw an undescribed number of ballots that were checked against the voter rolls and on some also undescribed number of occassions they used a supplemental list of voters to match the ballot to a registered voter.

4) He had to watch some of this process at two tables, but they were eight feet apart, so if you wanted to watch both tables at once, you had to be within four feet of one of them and one of the pollworkers made him stand at least 6 feet back so he had to be further away than he wanted to.

5) There was a period of confusion because some Republican watchers had went to lunch and they thought they could come back in as a certain number were allowed in, but as they had not signed out there was some double counting so there was some period they weren't allowed back in.


Here is the problem with all of that:

1) He does not say, and offers no evidence, that a vote for Trump was not counted, or an illegal vote for Biden was counted. NOT ONE!
2) He gives no idea of the number of times this happened. It appears in context its a handful. In fact, at one point, he says he saw "several" ballots placed into the problem ballots group because they were now out of their secrecy sleeves.
3) He gives no indication, nor can he, that this caused a vote for Trump to go into the problem ballots group.
4) On the list of matched voters, he admits the list was "relatively small." He does not even remotely say that this happened in any significant number.


In short, the affidavit is filled with speculation about some tiny number of possible instances of a a quesiton he would raise in processing. And that's it. To repeat, he does not say a single vote was counted incorrectly. NOT ONE.
 
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