2020 Presidential Race

[BowlBrother85]

PA has passed the auto recount threshold. The SoS said the ballots that came in after the 3 day window was just a couple thousand and wouldn’t have an impact on the final number.

If Trump wants to pay for the recount effort then by all means he is welcome to. Expecting it to change the outcome is futile though.

And one thing that the Trump team is suggesting, is that all of these ballots were votes for Biden. They don't know that. It's more likely that these votes would have been in line with the percentages we are seeing in the rest of the state. Some of those votes would definitely be for Trump.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Looks like a USPS worker in Erie, PA is facing charges after he admitted to lying on a signed a sworn affidavit where he made allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas.

Haha. Perjured himself to save Trump. What an idiot.

 

[VolinWayne]

Makes no sense.

You get outraged that a group of democrats mention archiving tweets and photos that could possibly implicate trump and his cronies.

Yet, you think nothing of trump screaming fraud and attempting to undermine the entire democratic process.

Which is the biggest immediate threat in your opinion?

When there is fraud it needs to absolutely be called out. THERE IS FRAUD. If there was no fraud what did the have to hide in these Democratic run cities. My question is after all of the lies about Russia the past 3 years did anybody really think that the left wouldn't cheat.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[NurseGoodVol]

This will almost certainly all be blown off, and in two or four years, we'll be discussing the same thing all over again. The simple reason is that to fix a problem, you first have to admit there is a problem ... and our government is never wrong. So, yes, the courts will refuse to hear "anecdotal" evidence because no one wants it to be anything more than anecdotal, and a real look just might find dirt under the carpet. See one other big issue we visit and revisit periodically (with lots of finger pointing) is that of government transparency.

It's a big carpet

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yea there’s about 50K-40K left to count in Arizona

... and Biden doesn't even need Arizona. LOL. He doesn't need Georgia either.

The Trump campaign is just prolonging the inevitable.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

FRAUD SCOREBOARD:

Biden - 0 proven claims

Trump - 1 proven claim

As they say, BALL DON’T LIE

 

[BowlBrother85]

Looks like a USPS worker in Erie, PA is facing charges after he admitted to lying on a signed sworn affidavit where he made allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas.

Good. The liars need to be held accountable. There are many of them.

 

[carlos86]

Good. The liars need to be held accountable. There are many of them.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

“A team of international observers invited by the Trump admin issued a preliminary report giving high marks to the conduct of last week’s elections.

And it criticizes Trump for making baseless allegations that the outcome resulted from systematic fraud.”

And they know how?

 

[hUTch2002]

Have you ever tried using a "." ?

Is this one of those discussions about 18 genders and men having period cramps?

 

[hUTch2002]

Oh really? The 50s are, as all past history is, relevant to today. The last time I checked there are still two Koreas. Alaska and Hawaii remain states into the union. We still use nuclear subs. And, I believe many of us still listen to rock n roll.

True but it’s been a long time since I rock and rolled.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Does anyone else remember when Republicans in Congress, and the prime talk show hosts on Fox News threw a fit when Hillary Clinton publicly advised Joe Biden to not concede anything on election night if he lost? And to keep fighting as long as he could in court?

Yeah, that happened. There was outrage on the right at Hillary.

 

[volinbham]

So Flynn talking to Russia was a possible Logan Act violation but Biden talking to foreign leaders is totally cool?

 

[Orangeburst]

Despite election results showing Biden win, Pompeo said he expects 'transition to a second Trump administration'

 

[BenGrimm]

LOL do you cream your pants at every random picture of papers/screen shot you see on Twitter?

 

[DJimgo]

So Flynn talking to Russia was a possible Logan Act violation but Biden talking to foreign leaders is totally cool?

Did he lie to the FBI about those conversations?

And did he say he was gonna roll back actions taken by the current admin?

 

[calban]

So Flynn talking to Russia was a possible Logan Act violation but Biden talking to foreign leaders is totally cool?

Cruz grilled McCabe on that very point today.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So Flynn talking to Russia was a possible Logan Act violation but Biden talking to foreign leaders is totally cool?

What was discussed? Nobody complained about President-elect Donald Trump taking congratulatory calls from foreign leaders.

 

[volinbham]

Did he lie to the FBI about those conversations?

figured that would come up - the point is that the FBI (and this was discussed with DOJ and Biden - it may have been Biden who brought it up) was ready to drop the investigation into Flynn when the "Logan Act" accusation was floated as a way to keep him under the crosshairs.

It was a BS charge to continue to pursue a fruitless investigation.

 

[NCFisher]

Everything they did was within states rights.

No it wasn’t; because you’re not up to speed on Art. II Sec. 1 clause 2 doesn’t make it so. The US constitution specifies that the state legislature has dominion over the electoral process, not governors, not secretaries of State, not courts at any level, nor election officials.

This is why Scotus has told Pennsylvania to sequester those ballots coming in after November 3. BY LAW, all ballots arriving after that date must be declared invalid. There’s no wiggle room there.

 

[volinbham]

What was discussed? Nobody complained about President-elect Donald Trump taking congratulatory calls from foreign leaders.

1. We don't know exactly what was discussed since Biden isn't under surveillance on bogus FISA applications
2. Biden today implied they were discussing future policy when he's in.

The larger point is that the specter of the Logan Act was used as rationale to stay on Flynn and plenty of our Russiagate devotees were convinced Flynn did indeed violate it.

 

[McDad]

LOL do you cream your pants at every random picture of papers/screen shot you see on Twitter?

Lol.
Wait until you meet EL.

 

[volinbham]

as to what Biden discussed with foreign leaders

Biden speaks to world leaders following election win

"Johnson first disclosed his conversation with Biden in a tweet. A Downing Street spokesperson said the two discussed shared priorities like trade and security, including through NATO. Johnson invited Biden to attend the COP26 climate change summit set to take place in Glasgow in November 2021, the spokesperson added.
The Biden-Harris transition team later released readouts of all four calls held Tuesday. All of the conversations touched on the coronavirus pandemic, the economic recovery and climate change. Biden discussed NATO with Johnson, Macron and Merkel.
The transition team released a readout of Biden’s call with Trudeau on Monday evening, saying the two discussed plans to cooperate on a range of issues, including addressing the COVID-19 pandemic, climate change and strengthening NATO."

sounds like more than congratulations.

 

[BowlBrother85]

No it wasn’t; because you’re not up to speed on Art. II Sec. 1 clause 2 doesn’t make it so. The US constitution specifies that the state legislature has dominion over the electoral process, not governors, not secretaries of State, not courts at any level, nor election officials.

This is why Scotus has told Pennsylvania to sequester those ballots coming in after November 3. BY LAW, all ballots arriving after that date must be declared invalid. There’s no wiggle room there.

Okay... that's fine. My apologies. It's moot, because ....

The Biden campaign doesn't need any more votes to be counted in Pennsylvania. Biden has a lead of more than 40,000 votes. If the Trump campaign doesn't want any more votes to be counted, how is that going to propel them to victory in a state which they must win? It's not. Game over.