2020 Presidential Race

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GoBigOrangeUT said:
To me, proving election fraud, whether digital or not, would be much easier to prove than voter fraud.
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Win the easier one - election fraud, and it becomes easier to attack voter fraud. Not going after individuals for voter fraud, but going after questionable organizations with campaigns to sign up a lot of individuals. The little bits will be harder to prove and less rewarding. Systemic problems can yield big results in a hurry. If you prove the election commissions incompetent in running an election, then you have the clout to question their ability to correctly register voters.
 
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hog88 said:
How would that work?
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Social security number maybe? All social security numbers for the living are automatically registered to vote. Would also help against fraud, as if someone tried to vote and their vote had already been cast, then some clear tomfoolery has taken place. Also, being able to check that your vote was counted properly after the fact would protect against potential vote changes.
 
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hog88 said:
The EC wasn't devised to protect slavery it was devised to protect the less populated states. The 3/5ths compromise is another story altogether but even CT and MA supported the EC.
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Actually the small state/big state issue was only part of it. Slavery was another. These were complex things, but even you brought up the 3/5 compromise which is directly tied to the EC. Like it or not, slavery was something that factored into the decision to create the EC. Without it the southern states wouldn’t have enough eligible citizens to matter.
 
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VolforFootball said:
Social security number maybe? All social security numbers for the living are automatically registered to vote. Would also help against fraud, as if someone tried to vote and their vote had already been cast, then some clear tomfoolery has taken place. Also, being able to check that your vote was counted properly after the fact would protect against potential vote changes.
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How do they determine where you live? Since voting goes down to the officials in your precinct residence and all?

And it takes like 5 minutes to register to vote and most states let you do it online now?
 
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Voters drop lawsuit seeking to throw out presidential votes in Wisconsin's Democratic-leaning counties
Molly Beck
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

MADISON — Three voters in northeast Wisconsin have dropped their effort to throw out votes in three heavily Democratic counties that helped deliver Wisconsin to President-elect Joe Biden.

The suit was dismissed the same day plaintiffs in three lawsuits filed in Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania dropped their legal challenge seeking the same goal.

The plaintiffs voluntarily dismissed a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Green Bay that sought to change the outcome of Wisconsin's election to President Donald Trump's favor by excluding the presidential votes from the counties in the state's final election certification.

The lawsuit alleged without evidence that absentee voting is fraught with widespread fraud. It focused on tossing out the votes in Milwaukee, Dane and Menominee counties.

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BUT, BUT, BUT... OBAMA!!!
 
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OHvol40 said:
Actually the small state/big state issue was only part of it. Slavery was another. These were complex things, but even you brought up the 3/5 compromise which is directly tied to the EC. Like it or not, slavery was something that factored into the decision to create the EC. Without it the southern states wouldn’t have enough eligible citizens to matter.
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The 3/5ths compromise was brought about more for congressional seats than for the EC.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Actually the small state/big state issue was only part of it. Slavery was another. These were complex things, but even you brought up the 3/5 compromise which is directly tied to the EC. Like it or not, slavery was something that factored into the decision to create the EC. Without it the southern states wouldn’t have enough eligible citizens to matter.
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Just like some of the northern states as I already pointed out. The EC helped more than the southern states.
 
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