2020 Presidential Race

[Stew Cook]

Compulsory registration is not automatic registration. In fact the article below lists repercussions for the individual not registering. Which is ludicrous

From voter registration to mail-in ballots, how do countries around the world run their elections?

If they still do the Selective Service stuff, I think that'd work well for automatic voter registration.

 

[NorthDallas40]

If they still do the Selective Service stuff, I think that'd work well for automatic voter registration.

I actually think that was dropped. However you do remember that you had to drag your ass down to the post office or where ever to do it right? Selective service was compulsory also but not automatic.

 

[OHvol40]

Compulsory registration is not automatic registration. In fact the article below lists repercussions for the individual not registering. Which is ludicrous

From voter registration to mail-in ballots, how do countries around the world run their elections?

I didn’t say compulsory registration, I said automatic registration.

 

[hog88]

I didn’t say compulsory registration, I said automatic registration.

Still haven't answered how that would work?

 

[OHvol40]

You mean like motor voter?

That still isn’t automatic, just convenient for those who have a reason to visit the DMV

 

[NorthDallas40]

I didn’t say compulsory registration, I said automatic registration.

Yep. And you claimed how wide spread it is. And I’m calling BS. Even in the blessed Europe you have a mix of compulsory and automatic. The UK is compulsory with fines.

The rest of the world also uses paper ballots due to the fraud concern but I digress...

 

[OHvol40]

The 3/5ths compromise was brought about more for congressional seats than for the EC.

It was both.

 

[LouderVol]

I actually think that was dropped. However you do remember that you had to drag your ass down to the post office or where ever to do it right? Selective service was compulsory also but not automatic.

SS is still required. It ties into a lot of federal aid for scholarships.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Still haven't answered how that would work?

Expect static and more deflection to “other countries do it”

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Haha. This is rich.

They can't really say why they are voting for him, so they throw together a word salad, and voila!

 

[lostsheep]

There you go, calling us conservatives knuckleheads O great and wise Lost Sheep. I guess there are about 72m or so Knuckleheads that voted.
Instead of recognizing there is a large segment of the population that has a different world view than your view you start name calling just like the majority of the elite steer left does on a daily basis. Are you not concerned about the Marxist infiltration within the Democratic Party? Are you not concerned that major media and social networks seem pro-Democrat party and are now engaged in censorship of any information that paints the far left in a negative way.

Nah, not nearly as I am concerned about the citizens that will seemingly blindly follow a carnival-barking cult leader.

 

[NorthDallas40]

SS is still required. It ties into a lot of federal aid for scholarships.

You’re right I thought it was twilighted. And it goes beyond federal aid don’t even apply at a defense contractor, a federal job, or apply for a clearance if you didn’t comply.

 

[lostsheep]

They can't really say why they are voting for him, so they throw together a word salad, and voila!

Exactly

 

[Weezer]

Actually the small state/big state issue was only part of it. Slavery was another. These were complex things, but even you brought up the 3/5 compromise which is directly tied to the EC. Like it or not, slavery was something that factored into the decision to create the EC. Without it the southern states wouldn’t have enough eligible citizens to matter.

This is inaccurate. The question of how slaves would be counted didn't come up until after the EC had been agreed upon. And again, the EC was a compromise. One side wanted the legislators to choose the President, and one side wanted popular vote. So they compromised and created the EC. It's how the Constitution was created, through compromise. The FFs created a system of government that they could then take back to their individual states and sell as something worth ratifying. Each state had to feel like they were getting a fair deal. It took 9 states ratifying the Constitution to go into effect, and if a state were to choose not to ratify, they wouldn't have been part of the Union. Each state joined willingly. Yes, slavery came to effect the EC, but the EC was not created because of slavery. That's just historically wrong.

 

[C-south]

That the Rs, including Trump, have had years to improve upon. Instead, they, like yourself, just like to bitch about it.

There’s nothing to do that will improve it. It was sh*t to begin with.

 

[LouderVol]

You’re right I thought it was twilighted. And it goes beyond federal aid don’t even apply at a defense contractor, a federal job, or apply for a clearance if you didn’t comply.

I have no idea how I would verify that I did it. Assuming they cant just look it up.

 

[Stew Cook]

I actually think that was dropped. However you do remember that you had to drag your ass down to the post office or where ever do to it right? Selective service was compulsory also but not automatic.

I thought it may have been changed, I'm not sure... Compulsory or not, the option could be presented.

Otherwise, I guess footprints would suffice.

 

[lostsheep]

There’s nothing to do that will improve it. It was sh*t to begin with.

Many said the same about FDR and social security.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Many said the same about FDR and social security.

Not a very good example. I've been paying in my entire life, and will most likely never see a return.

 

[OHvol40]

Still haven't answered how that would work?

It depends on preferred implementation methods, but either nationally through IRS records, social security records or census records; or locally through another record-keeping method every eligible voter is passively registered.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I thought it may have been changed, I'm not sure... Compulsory or not, the option could be presented.

Otherwise, I guess footprints would suffice.

Louder was right it’s still required. And I don’t care one way or another on compulsory registration other than it’s heavy handed. I don’t see a valid mechanism for automatic. Even social security requires active registration.

This isn’t that hard

 

[AM64]

Yep. We are no where near the Borg mindset of the European countries which many opine to be like. We are a federalist government with mostly equal distributed powers between the central and regional (states) governments (well were supposed to be). And for our geography alone it makes sense. We are a huge nation. What works in NY doesn’t necessarily work in TX

There's a direct comparison between the US and the EU, and individual states with European countries. The difference is Lincoln felt our agreement to unite was more hardcore. Brexit is maybe working for Britain; we had to fight a war which failed. The point is neither the EU and the US are coping well with creeping federalism stealing the sovereignty of the individual states. It's easier to take individual rights than to protect them; when enough has been taken, the next step usually gets very messy.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Many said the same about FDR and social security.

Many of us still think it’s over reach and bull ****

 

[NorthDallas40]

It depends on preferred implementation methods, but either nationally through IRS records, social security records or census records; or locally through another record-keeping method every eligible voter is passively registered.

So it’s automatic and tied to any number of other compulsory processes which require active registration. Looks pretty dumb.

 

[lostsheep]

Not a very good example. I've been paying in my entire life, and will most likely never see a return.

I would argue it's a very similar argument in that both acts are for the public welfare.