2022, 2023, & 2024 Baseball Commitments (Merged with the 2018+ Thread)

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Thanks vol66. What guys do we expect to not hold on to in this signing class? We need pitching in the worst way so hoping against hope that Liginfelter and Pence are on campus next year.

Who are the difference makers IYO that we have to have to improve? My take is Pence, Ligenfelter, Carter, and Chiana.

Seems to me that Simcox's recruiting is more SEC talent and size that we need as opposed to Serrano's first 4 years.

I spoke to one of Linginfelter's relatives a couple of weeks ago, and it seems he is still deciding. However, I know the family wants him to get a degree, they are big on that.

It is too bad Greenback did not have HS baseball when Zach's dad, Tony, was there, or he would have had a future as a pitcher. That guy had a cannon for an arm, it hurt to catch his throws. And if Zach has half the arm his dad had, he is golden.
 
Noticed that Serrano said he had mistake in not giving enough scholarship money to pitching the past few years so I'm hoping that gets corrected.

If we can get Stallings, Schultz and Darling to campus that would be great to go with our returning pitchers including Kyle Serrano.

I think we have negligible draft risk after Linginfelter, Schultz and Carter.

Schultz is a good student and rated outside the life-changing bonus money range. Seems like a guy who could help himself by going to college. However, his raw velocity could motivate some MLB team to make a run at him.

Beyond those three, I think we're in good shape, but hope could be distorting the thinking.
 
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Interesting read from the Mountain Press which is the local paper here in Sevier County....

MURFREESBORO -- This year, Sevier County pitcher Zach Linginfelter was named Mr. Baseball for Class AAA in Tennessee and earned Gatorade Tennessee Baseball Player of the Year in what was an outstanding senior season for the pro prospect. But one thing missing from the pitcher's resume was a pitching start in the Smoky Bears' first-ever state tournament appearance.

And his absence from the mound was noticeable, as the Bears suffered run-rule defeats in a pair of games Wednesday that eliminated them from postseason contention.

Following an 11-0 loss to Summit (34-5) in six innings in the second round of the Class AAA State Baseball Tournament on Wednesday afternoon, the Bears (31-15) moved to the loser's portion of the bracket to face Siegel (31-9), who also lost to Summit, at Siegel High School in the evening portion of the doubleheader.

Against Summit, Sevier County managed just five hits, while starting pitcher Chase Wallace gave up nine runs on nine hits and two walks while striking out four over five innings. Dalton Mitchell pitched in relief.

With Wallace struggling on the mound, senior Devante Matthews, who threw a no-hitter against Collierville on Tuesday, approached head coach Casey Taylor about seeing what he could do to help the team. But a TSSAA rule limiting pitchers to 10 innings over a two-day span made Matthews' desires moot.

"Devante wanted to pitch today," Taylor said. "He is unbelievable. And he's actually so intelligent that he was working thorough how many innings he could pitch. Just to think that this guy wants to start on a day's rest is amazing."

"I wanted to pitch in the first game, but Coach Taylor told me that you can only throw 10 innings in two days (per TSSAA rules), which was a big shocker to me," Matthews said of his desire to pitch a second consecutive day. "So once he said that, he said there was no reason to start me for just three innings. We were just going to wait it out and see what happens, and things just didn't go our way."

With both Sevier County and Siegel facing elimination in the evening affair, the Bears were expected to start Linginfelter. But it was sophomore Holt Rader who took the mound instead. This meant that if the Bears were to lose, they would've played three state tournament games without their best pitcher playing anything other than first base. And that's exactly what happened, as Rader gave up six runs (one earned) on five hits and one walk and the Stars got out to a 6-0 lead after three innings. Charlie Brown relieved Rader in the fourth inning, giving up five hits and the other four runs en route to the Stars' 10-0 win in five innings.

After Matthews pitched in Tuesday's win over Collierville, many people were expecting to see Linginfelter pitch in one of the Bears' two games Wednesday. Following the Bears' loss to Siegel, Taylor said his first option was to have his ace pitcher start against Summit in the first game of the day. But Linginfelter said he wasn't comfortable in making the start.

"I'm not trying to act like the kids call the shots, but he said he didn't want to go, so he didn't go. There aren't too many teams that are going to go home saying they didn't throw their No. 1 guy, but the kid wasn't comfortable going," Taylor said.

"I'm not going to fight the battle and get into a back-and-forth with him. And since he didn't feel comfortable going, we didn't have many other options other than him. We wanted to make our defense as good as we could possibly make it, so that led to the decision to go with Holt and Charlie."

Taylor added that it maybe wouldn't have mattered if Linginfelter started or not, as the Bears' offense finished with a total of zero runs and just nine hits combined over both of Wednesday's games. But with a state title on the line, he knew his team's best option was to start Linginfelter. It just so happened that Linginfelter said he wasn't ready to go, which foiled Taylor's plans of how he had laid out his pitching rotation.

"The intent was for him to start Game 1 today. I asked him yesterday if he was ready to roll. He said he was a little tender and sore. I can't say that I expected for a guy to not want to go, but I just wasn't going to fight the battle. My thing is, if you're going to pitch today, you pitch in Game 1," Taylor said of his discussions with Linginfelter about making a start.

"During this game (against Siegel), we got down early, and he asked me if I cared if he got loose (in the bullpen). At first, I told him that would be fine. But then I told him not to get loose. I told him that if he was going to pitch today, he should've pitched in Game 1. If we weren't going to sell out to win Game 1, I wasn't going to have him pitch in Game 2."

Linginfelter, a University of Tennessee signee, came into the year as a likely early-round MLB draft pick. But Taylor said Wednesday that his ace pitcher not making a start in the state tournament was just another instance that added questions about his ability to handle a large pitching workload that has hurt his draft stock.

"His draft status has dropped drastically," Taylor said. "The question about him going into this year was whether he could handle a big workload. And then his advisor was recommending that he only throw once a week. What kind of workload is that? So with him just pitching once a week caused his draft status to go down."

While the absence of Linginfelter on the mound was the big story Wednesday, the Bears' lack of offense was also a big factor in their defeats.

Two run-rule shutout losses is not a good way to end a season, but Taylor said it should taking nothing away from what the Bears accomplished this year.

"The performance we got from Devante last night (Tuesday) was just amazing. But we just ran out of gas today. You could see it and feel it. And when Zach said he didn't want to throw, that led to a letdown in emotion because we're not going to be able to make a run at the state tournament without throwing our No. 1 guy," Taylor said.

"What stinks is how we got smoked. It's almost like it makes the regular season seem so distant. But the things we were able to accomplish this year with a young, inexperienced team was incredible. Finding a way to win 30 games is unbelievable if you look at the team that we have."

With his team struggling Wednesday, Taylor said he was already thinking to next year by the third inning of the Siegel game.

The Bears lose three seniors- Matthews, Linginfelter and Nathan Clabo- this year, and Taylor said the roster, minus those three players, will look very similar in 2017, as the team will be adding just one freshman.

And with losing his top two pitchers, he added that there will likely be more games next year in which the Bears will utilize multiple pitchers to get through a game rather than the complete-game performances that were commonplace for Linginfelter and Matthews this season.

"Next season seems like a long ways away, but in the third inning of this game (against Siegel), that's what I was thinking about. I'm literally in the third-base coaching box mapping out what we've got for next season," Taylor said.

"Going into this year, I never would've anticipated getting to the state tournament. We knew we were going to be in the mix because of our pitching, so losing our top two pitchers is huge. But we return a lot defensively. We have a bunch of young guys who will return with a lot of experience, but they've got to get a lot better."

"There's no doubt we'll have some question marks going into next year, but these kids know how to win. They just have to go to work and get better."

Still thinking of what next year will bring, Taylor added that Matthews' departure would leave the biggest void.

"The biggest thing we'll have to replace is Devante because he is such a special kid and such a winner," the coach said. "It's just amazing what he has done for this program and this school as a whole in all sports and in areas both on and off the field. He's such a class-act guy. I love him. He'll be the one we miss the most."

As for how he'll remember his senior baseball season, Matthews said Wednesday's lopsided losses would not overshadow what was a special year that ended with the Bears making history in their first-ever trip to the state tournament.

"I look at it as we're just blessed to be here. We lost a lot of seniors last year, and a lot of people didn't think we had a chance to get out of our district.

But we proved a lot of people wrong," Matthews said.

"This season has just been a blessing. I've played with a great group of guys. We came together as a team and fought to get here (the state tournament). We knew it wasn't going to be an easy road to get out of East Tennessee, and we did that. We can't be more happy than to end our season in the state tournament."

"Things just didn't go our way today, and that's how baseball goes."
 
Interesting read from the Mountain Press which is the local paper here in Sevier County....




With Wallace struggling on the mound, senior Devante Matthews, who threw a no-hitter against Collierville on Tuesday, approached head coach Casey Taylor about seeing what he could do to help the team. But a TSSAA rule limiting pitchers to 10 innings over a two-day span made Matthews' desires moot.

"Devante wanted to pitch today," Taylor said. "He is unbelievable. And he's actually so intelligent that he was working thorough how many innings he could pitch. Just to think that this guy wants to start on a day's rest is amazing."

"I wanted to pitch in the first game, but Coach Taylor told me that you can only throw 10 innings in two days (per TSSAA rules), which was a big shocker to me," Matthews said of his desire to pitch a second consecutive day. "So once he said that, he said there was no reason to start me for just three innings. We were just going to wait it out and see what happens, and things just didn't go our way."

With both Sevier County and Siegel facing elimination in the evening affair, the Bears were expected to start Linginfelter. But it was sophomore Holt Rader who took the mound instead. This meant that if the Bears were to lose, they would've played three state tournament games without their best pitcher playing anything other than first base. And that's exactly what happened, as Rader gave up six runs (one earned) on five hits and one walk and the Stars got out to a 6-0 lead after three innings. Charlie Brown relieved Rader in the fourth inning, giving up five hits and the other four runs en route to the Stars' 10-0 win in five innings.

After Matthews pitched in Tuesday's win over Collierville, many people were expecting to see Linginfelter pitch in one of the Bears' two games Wednesday. Following the Bears' loss to Siegel, Taylor said his first option was to have his ace pitcher start against Summit in the first game of the day. But Linginfelter said he wasn't comfortable in making the start.

"I'm not trying to act like the kids call the shots, but he said he didn't want to go, so he didn't go. There aren't too many teams that are going to go home saying they didn't throw their No. 1 guy, but the kid wasn't comfortable going," Taylor said.

"I'm not going to fight the battle and get into a back-and-forth with him. And since he didn't feel comfortable going, we didn't have many other options other than him. We wanted to make our defense as good as we could possibly make it, so that led to the decision to go with Holt and Charlie."

Taylor added that it maybe wouldn't have mattered if Linginfelter started or not, as the Bears' offense finished with a total of zero runs and just nine hits combined over both of Wednesday's games. But with a state title on the line, he knew his team's best option was to start Linginfelter. It just so happened that Linginfelter said he wasn't ready to go, which foiled Taylor's plans of how he had laid out his pitching rotation.

"The intent was for him to start Game 1 today. I asked him yesterday if he was ready to roll. He said he was a little tender and sore. I can't say that I expected for a guy to not want to go, but I just wasn't going to fight the battle. My thing is, if you're going to pitch today, you pitch in Game 1," Taylor said of his discussions with Linginfelter about making a start.

"During this game (against Siegel), we got down early, and he asked me if I cared if he got loose (in the bullpen). At first, I told him that would be fine. But then I told him not to get loose. I told him that if he was going to pitch today, he should've pitched in Game 1. If we weren't going to sell out to win Game 1, I wasn't going to have him pitch in Game 2."

Linginfelter, a University of Tennessee signee, came into the year as a likely early-round MLB draft pick. But Taylor said Wednesday that his ace pitcher not making a start in the state tournament was just another instance that added questions about his ability to handle a large pitching workload that has hurt his draft stock.

"His draft status has dropped drastically," Taylor said. "The question about him going into this year was whether he could handle a big workload. And then his advisor was recommending that he only throw once a week. What kind of workload is that? So with him just pitching once a week caused his draft status to go down."

. . .

"The performance we got from Devante last night (Tuesday) was just amazing. But we just ran out of gas today. You could see it and feel it. And when Zach said he didn't want to throw, that led to a letdown in emotion because we're not going to be able to make a run at the state tournament without throwing our No. 1 guy," Taylor said.

. . .

With his team struggling Wednesday, Taylor said he was already thinking to next year by the third inning of the Siegel game.

The Bears lose three seniors- Matthews, Linginfelter and Nathan Clabo- this year, and Taylor said the roster, minus those three players, will look very similar in 2017, as the team will be adding just one freshman.

And with losing his top two pitchers, he added that there will likely be more games next year in which the Bears will utilize multiple pitchers to get through a game rather than the complete-game performances that were commonplace for Linginfelter and Matthews this season.

. . .


Still thinking of what next year will bring, Taylor added that Matthews' departure would leave the biggest void.

"The biggest thing we'll have to replace is Devante because he is such a special kid and such a winner," the coach said. "It's just amazing what he has done for this program and this school as a whole in all sports and in areas both on and off the field. He's such a class-act guy. I love him. He'll be the one we miss the most."

Pretty classless comments by a coach who revealed himself to be the kind of coach that made pitching limits necessary for high school ball.

He praised the guy who wanted to go on extremely short rest and called him a winner, and he did everything he could to throw Linginfelter under the bus.

He asks, "And then his advisor was recommending that he only throw once a week. What kind of workload is that?"

The answer is that it's a college workload, and high school pitchers shouldn't be asked to take on heavier workloads than better conditioned, older college pitchers do.

This coach clearly resents the fact that Linginfelter and his advisor were resolved to protect him from overuse. Sounds like he had two aces and resents the fact that the tournament and pitch count rules mean that a team needs a staff deeper than two to win the tournament.

He shouldn't be running down the pitcher who stood his ground.

I say good for Linginfelter for not letting this coach risk his future.
 
WOW! That was a pretty amazing and insightful article. Thank you for posting it. Not sure what to think about the situation now. Somewhat disappointed in his toughness and how that will play out in college. However, I also have some respect for the fact that he didn't want to risk an injury when he has his entire future ahead of him. Should be interesting back at the next athletic department meeting at school!
 
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Great article 66. I would like to hear those guys throwing programs and everything they did.
 
I don't care what Nolan Ryan thinks about babying young pitchers. He had the most incredible arm talents ever. What about that young player with only an average arm? That is who you protect. If a pitcher is sore, especially in the arm, he shouldn't pitch. Plain and simple.
 
I don't care what Nolan Ryan thinks about babying young pitchers. He had the most incredible arm talents ever. What about that young player with only an average arm? That is who you protect. If a pitcher is sore, especially in the arm, he shouldn't pitch. Plain and simple.

The thrust of the article is about building stamina and how pitch counts get in the way of it, and he's primarily discussing it regarding MLB pitchers.

There are a few other interesting points as well.
 
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The dangerous thing about advisors is that some have their own personal agendas. However, he threw 120 pitches to get you to the state tournament, and your offense didn't score in 2 straight games. Maybe you should focus on that aspect, coach. Also, if your team is so mentally weak that not having a certain kid on the mound means a flat performance, 2 games in a row, you never had a chance to start with.
 
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Go in the drop down menu, select Tennessee, hit the button and the 2016 class will show up, change the year to 2017 and the 2017 class will show up. It's not as cool as it used to be, but you can get an idea.

It looks like our 2017 class has fewer commits than many of the other SEC schools...looks like some good players though.
 
Hey new to the boards.I see several references to Perfect Game ratings and data. Does anyone ever go through the Game Changer app to look at the raw data from the recruits various tournament and travel teams? Several of the '16 played for Team TN, Scout Teams, and some National level travel teams. It would take a little digging but alot of teams use GC as their official book.
 
Hey new to the boards.I see several references to Perfect Game ratings and data. Does anyone ever go through the Game Changer app to look at the raw data from the recruits various tournament and travel teams? Several of the '16 played for Team TN, Scout Teams, and some National level travel teams. It would take a little digging but alot of teams use GC as their official book.

Welcome to the board GMan. Post often. :hi:
 
I can't remember the poster, but someone on VQ claimed Farragut people said Pence was coming to school at the state tournament.

Good news from a reliable source, he was at orientation to get started in summer classes along with several others.
 
There is a new article out on him that pretty well tells me he is going pro.

Hey 31, you talking about Pence or Linginfelter? I saw the article on Lingo and I think you are correct...going pro!
I didn't know if there was an article about Pence also.
 
Hey 31, you talking about Pence or Linginfelter? I saw the article on Lingo and I think you are correct...going pro!
I didn't know if there was an article about Pence also.

I am going to be surprised if pence goes pro unless he signs for little of nothing. I had heard most of the pro guys are scared off with the off the field issues he has had.
 
Hey 31, you talking about Pence or Linginfelter? I saw the article on Lingo and I think you are correct...going pro!
I didn't know if there was an article about Pence also.

Linginfelter. I think Pence comes to school.
 
I still think that Lingo will be in school come time, it's very similar to the Wil Crowe case here in Pigeon Forge. They are looking for a certain number and I don't personally think they will be getting it. Great kid and family so I hope the best for him either way.
 
Sorry for the rookie post. I heard it backwards and created confusion. Lingo was at orientation and Pence was not.

No problem at all. You are right, Lingo, Heflin, Walsh, Darling, Derkay and Charleston were all at this orientation. There are still many orientations to go so I am sure the rest will be there soon.
 
No problem at all. You are right, Lingo, Heflin, Walsh, Darling, Derkay and Charleston were all at this orientation. There are still many orientations to go so I am sure the rest will be there soon.

Let us know when you see Schultz. :)
 
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