2024 Official Seed List Watch Party Thread

Okay, good to know. Never really took the time to research. If that’s the case, it makes the 1-seed even more desirable.
Not really. We would be the 1-seed in the West Region, because we won’t pass UConn, Purdue, or Houston in the overall rankings, who would be slotted accordingly in the East, Midwest, and South Regions. Therefore, we would play in Charlotte or Memphis the opening weekend and advance to the West regional in Los Angeles.

I’d prefer the #2 in the South or Midwest and get to play in Dallas or Detroit for the regional.

We’ll be in Charlotte or Memphis for the first two rounds either way.
 
That’s my case why we are getting bumped down and AZ taking the West. Houston is more south than “west”.
Arizona will be in the West either way - as the 1 or the 2. We will either be the 1 in the West or the 2 in the South or Midwest.
 
Not really. We would be the 1-seed in the West Region, because we won’t pass UConn, Purdue, or Houston in the overall rankings, who would be slotted accordingly in the East, Midwest, and South Regions. Therefore, we would play in Charlotte or Memphis the opening weekend and advance to the West regional in Los Angeles.

I’d prefer the #2 in the South or Midwest and get to play in Dallas or Detroit for the regional.

We’ll be in Charlotte or Memphis for the first two rounds either way.
Location doesn’t really matter. There’s not going to be anymore an overwhelming contingency of one fan base in any of these places. I don’t think our fans will travel any worse to LA than they would Detroit. There’s a slew of flights to DET out of Knox and even more to LAX out of Nashville. We’ll be well represented no matter where we play, but not enough to swing a result. Seeding and matchups matter much more than location.
 
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I guess I’m more confused about how the locations work. I thought the sites/locations were somewhat aligned with regions. Didn’t know you could end up in Charlotte on the other side of the country but be in the West region.
1st/2nd round locations aren’t tied to any region at all, the region location is only where you go to for the 2nd weekend, so if you make it to the S16. They’ll place you in a region based on location as a preference starting with top seeds but then also trying to create a balanced region, they ideally don’t want to put the top 1 seed and top 2 seed into the same region. Charlotte and Memphis are the 2 closest first weekend locations so it’s almost a certainty we will be at one of those the first two rounds, the region location is more what’s up in the air.
 
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Not really. We would be the 1-seed in the West Region, because we won’t pass UConn, Purdue, or Houston in the overall rankings, who would be slotted accordingly in the East, Midwest, and South Regions. Therefore, we would play in Charlotte or Memphis the opening weekend and advance to the West regional in Los Angeles.

I’d prefer the #2 in the South or Midwest and get to play in Dallas or Detroit for the regional.

We’ll be in Charlotte or Memphis for the first two rounds either way.

It’s all a matter of preference. We just agree to disagree. Which is fine. I just really don’t see much of a difference in Dallas/Detroit versus LA for the 2nd weekend. Our fan output isn’t going to be that different in any of those 3 locations. And, again, I think the matchup versus is Arizona is far more appealing than Purdue or Houston. Purdue owns us. They just do.
 
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Location doesn’t really matter. There’s not going to be anymore an overwhelming contingency of one fan base in any of these places. I don’t think our fans will travel any worse to LA than they would Detroit. There’s a slew of flights to DET out of Knox and even more to LAX out of Nashville. We’ll be well represented no matter where we play, but not enough to swing a result. Seeding and matchups matter much more than location.
It’s not the travel that gets you in LA, it’s the cost of everything else and that it’s not drivable for 95% of the fan base.
 
It’s not the travel that gets you in LA, it’s the cost of everything else and that it’s not drivable for 95% of the fan base.

Dallas is drivable? It’s 12 hours from Knoxville if you’re lucky and don’t hit traffic. That’s not exactly a quick trip. It sound more like you personally just want to go to this game and have no plans to fly to LA lol.
 
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It’s all a matter of preference. We just agree to disagree. Which is fine. I just really don’t see much of a difference in Dallas/Detroit versus LA for the 2nd weekend. Our fan output isn’t going to be that different in any of those 3 locations. And, again, I think the matchup versus is Arizona is far more appealing than Purdue or Houston. Purdue owns us. They just do.
I just believe, given the choice, every team wants to be as close to home as possible.

I had this conversation with one of the best coaches of all-time once during his conference tournament and when I asked him about NCAA location preference, those were his exact words.
 
It’s not the travel that gets you in LA, it’s the cost of everything else and that it’s not drivable for 95% of the fan base.
A flight from Nashville to LAX for week 2 of the tourney is $300. Most fans that travel to NCAA regionals have plenty of disposable income to be able to take multiple days off work, pay for transportation, expensive weekend tickets, and price-surged lodging - all that to say, flying vs driving isn’t going to keep many at home, when almost all attendees would be there regardless.
 
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A flight from Nashville to LAX for week 2 of the tourney is $300 out of Nashville. Most fans that travel to NCAA regionals have plenty of disposable income to be able to take multiple days off work, pay for transportation, expensive weekend tickets, and price-surged lodging - all that to say, flying vs driving isn’t going to keep many at home, when almost all attendees would be there regardless.

The gas it would require to drive from East TN to Dallas and back is probably a few hundred dollars anyway, so are you really saving that much money making a 12-15 hour drive instead of flying?
 
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Not really. We would be the 1-seed in the West Region, because we won’t pass UConn, Purdue, or Houston in the overall rankings, who would be slotted accordingly in the East, Midwest, and South Regions. Therefore, we would play in Charlotte or Memphis the opening weekend and advance to the West regional in Los Angeles.

I’d prefer the #2 in the South or Midwest and get to play in Dallas or Detroit for the regional.

We’ll be in Charlotte or Memphis for the first two rounds either way.
Correct on locations, but that’s what most are saying, rather be the 1 seed with likely better matchups, as well as an Arizona as our 2 verse Houston, Purdue or UCONN as our 1. Vol fan are going to be very similar in numbers at any of those 4 regional sites, so I’m taking the higher seed and better matchups every time.
 
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Dallas is drivable? It’s 12 hours from Knoxville if you’re lucky and don’t hit traffic. That’s not exactly a quick trip. It sound more like you personally just want to go to this game and have no plans to fly to LA lol.
To be fair though, Dallas is 7-8 hours from a lot of UT fans.
 
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Dallas is drivable? It’s 12 hours from Knoxville if you’re lucky and don’t hit traffic. That’s not exactly a quick trip. It sound more like you personally just want to go to this game and have no plans to fly to LA lol.
I didn’t say Dallas was easily drivable from Knoxville. It’s only 6 hours from Memphis and 9 hours from Nashville. My point was that for the thousands and thousands of fans and alums who live outside of East Tennessee, myself included, it’s easier to get there or Detroit than LA. I can be in Detroit in 5 hours or hop a cheap non-stop flight to Dallas, but I won’t go to LA - too damn expensive.
 
I didn’t say Dallas was easily drivable from Knoxville. It’s only 6 hours from Memphis and 9 hours from Nashville. My point was that for the thousands and thousands of fans and alums who live outside of East Tennessee, myself included, it’s easier to get there or Detroit than LA. I can be in Detroit in 5 hours or hop a cheap non-stop flight to Dallas, but I won’t go to LA - too damn expensive.

Okay, that’s fine. Again, it’s preference. We know you want to go to the game, which is understandable why you would advocate for location. I’m not going, because I can’t afford to go regardless, so I’d prefer to play against a team I think we have a better chance at beating.

I don’t have faith we can beat Purdue. It’s an awful matchup. Arizona is a good matchup. For me, it’s that simple. I’m just not convinced fans make an impact on the outcome.
 
The gas it would require to drive from East TN to Dallas and back is probably a few hundred dollars anyway, so are you really saving that much money making a 12-15 hour drive instead of flying?
The only argument against is that multiple people can ride in the same car. But say you bring your family of 4 - you save $900 on flights, but you’re still spending in the few thousands for tickets and multiple rooms. Anyone who can afford that is taking the 2-4 hour flight for convenience. Not to get too judgmental on people’s decisions here, but if you can’t afford the extra money for the convenience of the flight to any of these locations, you probably can’t afford to be going to them period.
 
I just believe, given the choice, every team wants to be as close to home as possible.

I had this conversation with one of the best coaches of all-time once during his conference tournament and when I asked him about NCAA location preference, those were his exact words.
Every coach will also tell you they’d prefer better matchups/easier games than being closer to home against bad matchups/tougher teams.
 
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The only argument against is that multiple people can ride in the same car. But say you bring your family of 4 - you save $900 on flights, but you’re still spending in the few thousands for tickets and multiple rooms. Anyone who can afford that is taking the 2-4 hour flight for convenience. Not to get too judgmental on people’s decisions here, but if you can’t afford the extra money for the convenience of the flight to any of these locations, you probably can’t afford to be going to them period.

True. You can pack a family into a car for cheaper than a flight. So, that helps. But I’m in agreement that the vast majority of people going to a S16/E8 game are probably flush with disposable income and will choose the convince a flight has to offer.

Also, how many fans do we expect to go to the 2nd weekend? Tickets are distributed evenly to the 4 teams in your pod. So, what, like 5,000 - 7,000 fans roughly at most in Detroit or Dallas? Let’s say LA is really that less desirable, we’d have maybe 3,000 - 5,000 fans in the stands as a ballpark. We think that extra 2K fans is swinging the difference in the outcome? Hard for me to believe that.
 
Okay, that’s fine. Again, it’s preference. We know you want to go to the game, which is understandable why you would advocate for location. I’m not going, because I can’t afford to go regardless, so I’d prefer to play against a team I think we have a better chance at beating.

I don’t have faith we can beat Purdue. It’s an awful matchup. Arizona is a good matchup. For me, it’s that simple. I’m just not convinced fans make an impact on the outcome.
Understood. That’s what this board is for - to express opinions. I personally don’t care who we play, and would rather see as much orange in the stands as possible. And it’s March - all of the 1-seeds could be out by then, anyway.
 
Understood. That’s what this board is for - to express opinions. I personally don’t care who we play, and would rather see as much orange in the stands as possible. And it’s March - all of the 1-seeds could be out by then, anyway.

I just think you discount our fanbase. I would be shocked if the difference in fans attending the game is that much different. California is a huge state, too. Vol fans are everywhere. I’m sure there is a healthy contingent of Vol fans in Cally hoping we come to LA. I think it’s all going to be about the same. Vol fans just show up.
 
True. You can pack a family into a car for cheaper than a flight. So, that helps. But I’m in agreement that the vast majority of people going to a S16/E8 game are probably flush with disposable income and will choose the convince a flight has to offer.

Also, how many fans do we expect to go to the 2nd weekend? Tickets are distributed evenly to the 4 teams in your pod. So, what, like 5,000 - 7,000 fans roughly at most in Detroit or Dallas? Let’s say LA is really that less desirable, we’d have maybe 3,000 - 5,000 fans in the stands as a ballpark. We think that extra 2K fans is swinging the difference in the outcome? Hard for me to believe that.
Exactly. I’d even make an argument that LA or Dallas would bring the most Vol fans. I’m personally not going to another tourney game until we make the F4 (hopefully in a few weeks) but I’d much rather go to a place that has endless nonstop flight options and more to do outside of the time I’m watching basketball. Both of those locations offer that and I think you’d see it reflected in our fan representation.

But once again, 5k fans aren’t getting rowdy enough to tilt any of these outcomes lol
 
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True. You can pack a family into a car for cheaper than a flight. So, that helps. But I’m in agreement that the vast majority of people going to a S16/E8 game are probably flush with disposable income and will choose the convince a flight has to offer.

Also, how many fans do we expect to go to the 2nd weekend? Tickets are distributed evenly to the 4 teams in your pod. So, what, like 5,000 - 7,000 fans roughly at most in Detroit or Dallas? Let’s say LA is really that less desirable, we’d have maybe 3,000 - 5,000 fans in the stands as a ballpark. We think that extra 2K fans is swinging the difference in the outcome? Hard for me to believe that.
Tennessee has a huge alumni California chapter as well, my guess is that if Tennessee makes it to the second weekend you’d see a very similar amount of orange at any of the locations.
 
I just think you discount our fanbase. I would be shocked if the difference in fans attending the game is that much different. California is a huge state, too. Vol fans are everywhere. I’m sure there is a healthy contingent of Vol fans in Cally hoping we come to LA. I think it’s all going to be about the same. Vol fans just show up.
I agree that we are everywhere. But the closer you get to the state of TN (not necessarily Knoxville), the greater chances of more fans. There are 10,000 UT alumni in Shelby County alone, which is 6 hours from Knoxville.

I went to Omaha in 2021, and there was a nice contingent. But Omaha is not exactly easy to get to. If it was Dallas or Indy or Tampa, there probably would have been more .
 
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