2024 Official Seed List Watch Party Thread

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#401
TheMookieMonster said:
For you. Not for everyone. You’re basing this off your location. Knoxville is roughly 8 hours from Detroit. You know, Knoxville, where the university is located and the majority of Vol fans.
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No, this was based on the number of UT alums residing in the states hosting said regionals and the bordering states. I don’t live in any of those. My point from the beginning is that we’d have more fans in Dallas or Detroit than Los Angeles, nothing more, nothing less. But some folks want to argue for the sake of arguing.
 
#402
#402
bleedingTNorange said:
Sure some parts, not all. Again my opinion doesn’t change in the least, and most folks seem to disagree with your overall take.
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My point from the beginning has been we would have more fans in Dallas or Detroit than we would Los Angeles. If you want to disagree, that’s fine.
 
#403
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TrumpedUpVol said:
Tennessee fans would be the vast majority of the fans in attendance for the Round of 32 session on Sunday in Memphis. On Saturday in Charlotte, UNC fans will be the majority and almost certainly pulling against the Vols. You take playing in-state 100% of the time if presented with the option, which is of course not applicable unless selected as the #1 overall seed.
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Regardless of where you play, when you’re the higher seed everyone that’s not a fan of your team is pulling against you.
 
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#404
#404
berryvol said:
Not to get too ahead of myself here, but Michigan currently has a lead over Purdue at home. Purdue still has to play Mich State, Wisconsin, and @ Illinois. All these are Q1 games, so do we think there’s any scenario they drop off the 1 line or to the very back of the 1 line if they went, say, 2-2 over the last 4?
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They appear to now be handling Michigan. I think they’re a solid #1 no matter what. Even if they drop three more games they’ll still win the Big Ten and have some impressive non-conference wins.
 
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#405
VolGee4 said:
We don’t need to beat it into the ground. It is also depends on the sport, too.

If football was playing for the national title (actually better argument is semifinals), would more fans go to the Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, or Ford Field (obviously hypothetical)? The closer you get to your fan base, the greater a chance you can get more there (with ticket limitations not part of it). I understand the variable with maximum capacity, but at some point, it’s also fan experience. The closer you get to the state, the greater the chance a person/family decides to drive instead of spending money on flights. Dallas is actually somewhat convenient for a great number of UT fans/alums, and they don’t have to fly.

I would venture to guess that fans drive to more of these type events than fly (aside from out west where you won’t get as many). It’s just the way traveling works.

Nonetheless, a lot can happen in the weekend before the Regional Finals.
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Maybe I’m wrong then, my experience has been if you can afford these type of events (Super Bowl, World Series, etc) and your drive is more than 6+ hours you’re typically flying.
 
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#406
VolCalls said:
They appear to now be handling Michigan. I think they’re a solid #1 no matter what. Even if they drop three more games they’ll still win the Big Ten and have some impressive non-conference wins.
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I agree, just a thought with their tough remaining slate.
 
#407
#407
berryvol said:
And rarely do you see a regional game packed to the brim - I’d say 2-4k seats minimum will be unfilled in those arenas.
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Depends on who else is there. I expect all four arenas to be packed since they only hold 18k-20k. No regionals being played in stadiums this year.
 
#408
#408
VolGee4 said:
Fair enough. As a fan though, I would prefer to be closer to give myself that chance to go. It’s all about the experience, too.
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Just speaking for myself in Knoxville, but for me and a buddy to hypothetically drive to Dallas verse fly to LA you’re talking an extra $300 probably. That wouldn’t be the difference in me going vs. not going to see the Vols, especially considering the convenience of time with a flight verse 12 hour drive.
 
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#409
bleedingTNorange said:
Maybe I’m wrong then, my experience has been if you can afford these type of events (Super Bowl, World Series, etc) and your drive is more than 6+ hours you’re typically flying.
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I don’t believe that to be the case.

Super Bowl and World Series though are in a different stratosphere than a Regional Final. I’ve been to a Regional Finals, the College World Series, the BCS National title at the Fiesta Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Citrus Bowl, and the Outback Bowl. I only flew to Tempe and Miami.
 
#410
#410
VolCalls said:
Depends on who else is there. I expect all four arenas to be packed since they only hold 18k-20k. No regionals being played in stadiums this year.
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I’ve been to several regional matchups in basketball arenas over the last 10-15 years, even some outside of the Vols. I’ve never seen a fully sold out arena. The closest was probably UK v UNC in the E8 in Memphis and even that game had most of the upper level empty and a few empty seats in the lower level. So many people leave after their team plays or gets eliminated that you naturally have empties, not to mention that there’s just not a lot of fans that travel to these games.
 
#411
#411
VolCalls said:
My point from the beginning has been we would have more fans in Dallas or Detroit than we would Los Angeles. If you want to disagree, that’s fine.
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This was your original post which didn’t mention anything about fans…

“Personally I’d rather be the #2 in the South or Midwest and play in a regional closer to home than the #1 out West.”

Now maybe that was your overall inference but it wasn’t mentioned and read as if that was your overall take on what was best, which is why many replied and disagreed. If your simple take is that more fans will be in Detroit or Dallas verse LA that’s probably true, the point myself and others have made is that we just don’t think the extra day 1k fans is the difference/worth giving up a first ever 1 seed and better matchups.
 
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#412
I’d also argue those who don’t live in Tennessee, but relatively close to one of those sites, would be more likely to show up given they don’t get to see the Vols in person very often.
 
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#413
VolCalls said:
Depends on who else is there. I expect all four arenas to be packed since they only hold 18k-20k. No regionals being played in stadiums this year.
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I don’t think any of them were last year either, when’s the last time a regional was in a stadium and not an arena actually?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Just speaking for myself in Knoxville, but for me and a buddy to hypothetically drive to Dallas verse fly to LA you’re talking an extra $300 probably. That wouldn’t be the difference in me going vs. not going to see the Vols, especially considering the convenience of time with a flight verse 12 hour drive.
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There are thousands and thousands of fans west of Nashville that could easily get to Dallas. Plus, it’s not an extra $300. Gas isn’t that much more. You also have to rent a car or find transportation in LA.

Anyway, it’s been a fun discussion. No one is changing their mind.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I don’t believe that to be the case.

Super Bowl and World Series though are in a different stratosphere than a Regional Final. I’ve been to a Regional Finals, the College World Series, the BCS National title at the Fiesta Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Citrus Bowl, and the Outback Bowl. I only flew to Tempe and Miami.
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Like I said if I’m wrong that’s fine…simple pricing for me and a buddy for Dallas driving and LA flying is a no brainer for me.
 
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VolGee4 said:
There are thousands and thousands of fans west of Nashville that could easily get to Dallas. Plus, it’s not an extra $300. Gas isn’t that much more. You also have to rent a car or find transportation in LA.

Anyway, it’s been a fun discussion. No one is changing their mind.
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855 miles @20mpg and $3/gal, that’s $260 round trip and then you gotta drive around a bit while there, that’s $300. Yes you gotta UBER or rent a car when in LA, like I said if I was gonna attend I would attend either of those, and pricing is similar. And driving isn’t gonna be on the table when we are talking a couple hundred dollars difference vs flying and saving all that time, maybe other people don’t value their time as much, that’s fair.
 
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#418
#418
Hey, quick question:

Are we still talking about cities in the US and their respective distances from other cities? I want to make sure we don't get too far off topic in the

2024 Official Which City Is Closer To Which Other City And Also Can I Fly There From Wherever I Happen To Live Watch Party Thread​

 
#422
#422
bleedingTNorange said:
Like I said if I’m wrong that’s fine…simple pricing for me and a buddy for Dallas driving and LA flying is a no brainer for me.
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It’s roughly 850 miles. If you have a vehicle that gets 20 miles per gallon, that’s 42.5 gallons. If gas is $3 per gallon (which is high), that’s $127.50 each way. If you are with a friend, that’s $63.75 a piece. Even if you find a $200 flight, it’s still cheaper. Sure, you analyze cost-benefit of getting there quicker. But by the time you get to the airport early, fly to LA, and find a rental car, you are talking 6 hours. That’s also direct, and my guess is there are not many (if any) direct flights. Then, you are talking 8+ hours to LA.

Pretty simple analysis.
 
#423
#423
VolCalls said:
Some have, some haven’t. I’d say the absence of 1-seeds in the elite eight last season had a lot of those folks who had purchased tickets ahead of time returning home and eating them.
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That happens every year in the E8, as I stated. S16 games are gonna have higher crowds in actuality, but it’s extremely rare to have a regional game have a capacity crowd, no matter who is playing in it.
 
#424
#424
bleedingTNorange said:
855 miles @20mpg and $3/gal, that’s $260 round trip and then you gotta drive around a bit while there, that’s $300. Yes you gotta UBER or rent a car when in LA, like I said if I was gonna attend I would attend either of those, and pricing is similar. And driving isn’t gonna be on the table when we are talking a couple hundred dollars difference vs flying and saving all that time, maybe other people don’t value their time as much, that’s fair.
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Crazy that we used almost exact numbers, and I didn’t see this before responding.
 
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