2024 Official Seed List Watch Party Thread

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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I know what I said, Matlock, but it doesn’t materially change my point.

Yes, Matlock. I am the one who said that. Crime solved. I’ve authorized you to remove the word only if it helps lighten your OCD on the matter.
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I didn’t realize we had Mark Emmert on the forum. Guess you have time to kill since the Committee on Infractions has no power anymore. Thanks for your leadership and wisdom!
 
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Looking at the case for Arizona, I don’t know how they’re considered a 1-seed.

Their only non-conference ranked wins are Duke and Alabama, and they’ve lost twice to the only other ranked team in the Pac-12, Washington State… doesn’t seem deserving of a 1-seed imo.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Interesting point I’ve not seen mentioned…

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I doubt the committee is going to play the what-if injury game to determine seeding. Especially if it’s not a what-if scenario faced by a blue blood. If they do that, then it opens up a can of worms where they’d have to consider injury scenarios for all other teams, too.
 
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My thing is… do we want to be the worst 1 seed or the best 2 seed. Strategically speaking I think the best 2 seed may be the way to go, but historically speaking being a 1 seed for the first time in school history would be quite the accomplishment.
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
My thing is… do we want to be the worst 1 seed or the best 2 seed. Strategically speaking I think the best 2 seed may be the way to go, but historically speaking being a 1 seed for the first time in school history would be quite the accomplishment.
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What’s the reasoning behind said strategy?
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
My thing is… do we want to be the worst 1 seed or the best 2 seed. Strategically speaking I think the best 2 seed may be the way to go, but historically speaking being a 1 seed for the first time in school history would be quite the accomplishment.
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Last #1 seed. You will could play the best 2 seed. Either way your route is easier each round and you don't play the other tip seeds till final 4. I don't really believe they do a true s curve.
 
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spyfish007 said:
Last #1 seed. You will could play the best 2 seed. Either way your route is easier each round and you don't play the other tip seeds till final 4. I don't really believe they do a true s curve.
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They definitely don't do a true S-curve. They try to balance the regions as much as they can. But geography, conference affiliation, and other factors prevent a true S-Curve bracket.

Last year for instance looked like this according to the NCAA's published S-Curve for the top 4 seeds in each region:

South: Alabama (1), Arizona (7), Baylor (9), Virginia (16)
Midwest: Houston (2), Texas (6), Xavier (12), Indiana (15)
West: Kanas (3), UCLA (5), Gonzaga (10), UCONN (13)
East: Purdue (4), Marquette (8), Kansas State (11), Tennessee (14)
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
My thing is… do we want to be the worst 1 seed or the best 2 seed. Strategically speaking I think the best 2 seed may be the way to go, but historically speaking being a 1 seed for the first time in school history would be quite the accomplishment.
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A 1-seed is nice, but we’re chasing a Final Four and national title. I’d rather be closer to home as a #2, given the choice.
 
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VolCalls said:
A 1-seed is nice, but we’re chasing a Final Four and national title. I’d rather be closer to home as a #2, given the choice.
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If there were a region in like Atlanta or Memphis, I'd be right there with you. But there is just not a region close at all. I know flights are easier to some than others, but I just don't see regional location being much of a factor in our Final 4 odds this year.
 
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wtmvol said:
If there were a region in like Atlanta or Memphis, I'd be right there with you. But there is just not a region close at all. I know flights are easier to some than others, but I just don't see regional location being much of a factor in our Final 4 odds this year.
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Bingo
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
We’re dangerously close to restarting the debate about if people are more likely to drive to LA or Dallas. Lol. Let’s not do that.
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Lol I was making sure to avoid that, this is a slightly different topic about which one you feel we have a better chance of advancing in….as a 1 seed or as a 2 seed.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Lol I was making sure to avoid that, this is a slightly different topic about which one you feel we have a better chance of advancing in….as a 1 seed or as a 2 seed.
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Agreed. Just felt the conversation starting to shift. 😂

But, yes, statistics say you want the 1-seed. Feels like common sense, but guess not. Either way, it’s still a long-shot for us to get it. This brutal stretch of games is just one I don’t have confidence we escape undefeated, and that feels like what you have to do.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Agreed. Just felt the conversation starting to shift. 😂

But, yes, statistics say you want the 1-seed. Feels like common sense, but guess not. Either way, it’s still a long-shot for us to get it. This brutal stretch of games is just one I don’t have confidence we escape undefeated, and that feels like what you have to do.
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Obviously a huge part comes down to what Arizona, and to a lesser extent North Carolina also do…I do find it interesting that both Barttorvik and Teamrankings now have us with better chances of a 1 than Arizona.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Obviously a huge part comes down to what Arizona, and to a lesser extent North Carolina also do…I do find it interesting that both Barttorvik and Teamrankings now have us with better chances of a 1 than Arizona.
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They must have a lot more confidence than me that we win out, because personally I think that's the only way we get it. JMO.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
They must have a lot more confidence than me that we win out, because personally I think that's the only way we get it. JMO.
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Eh…I mean both teams go 2-1 and that’s a BAD loss Arizona now adds along with 2 blah wins and a good loss for Tennessee with 2 good wins. As I’ve maintained I feel as if we need to just match them, they go 3-0 then that’s what we gotta do as well.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Eh…I mean both teams go 2-1 and that’s a BAD loss Arizona now adds along with 2 blah wins and a good loss for Tennessee with 2 good wins. As I’ve maintained I feel as if we need to just match them, they go 3-0 then that’s what we gotta do as well.
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What if we match Arizona’s record but NC loses one less game - do you think they would they get the 1 seed? Seems like they would to me, especially being a blue blood program.
 
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walkenvol said:
What if we match Arizona’s record but NC loses one less game - do you think they would they get the 1 seed? Seems like they would to me, especially being a blue blood program.
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Analytics and NET don’t love them, if they go 3-0 with a win at Duke that could definitely open the door though I’d imagine.
 
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