2024 Presidential Race

[85SugarVol]

But I in no way assigned any position to you. I said "others".....which is 100% true.
Maybe you should look again.

See below:
I certainly will. Others will tell themselves that he was forced out in some grand conspiratorial scheme to subvert democracy and install a candidate whom no one actually supports.

Ha you were in here the other day telling me what I was implying. I think we both know what you were implying there.

 

[luthervol]

Ha you were in here the other day telling me what I was implying. I think we both know what you were implying there.

I wasn't implying that you were part of the "others", but believe what you wish. It really doesn't matter, the point remains.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Maybe it should serve to highlight what a truly horrible choice trump is.

But it's clear that trumpers are unreachable.
He could shoot someone in the middle of Times Square and his followers would still worship him.

I know you really mean well; but I still don’t think you really understand the average Trump voter at all.
At least in my world; it isn’t that we are FOR Trump. It is that we are AGAINST an Evil and depraved criminal enterprise. I hope that some day you will finally be able to realize just how warped the democrat party has truly become.
I feel like you are stuck on personalities. I am Laser focused on philosophies.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Nah CP. Nobody can be that stupid. Luther is just a pathetic troll.

I see Luther more as a man who is stuck in the past; sadly supporting a party that no longer exists anywhere but in his memory.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

This is why they are trying hard keeping former POTUS from being elected again.

 

[lawgator1]

I know you really mean well; but I still don’t think you really understand the average Trump voter at all.
At least in my world; it isn’t that we are FOR Trump. It is that we are AGAINST an Evil and depraved criminal enterprise. I hope that some day you will finally be able to realize just how warped the democrat party has truly become.
I feel like you are stuck on personalities. I am Laser focused on philosophies.

Isolationism and protectionism in today's world are bankrupt philosophies.

 

[utvolpj]

Perhaps the part that stings the worst is how fervently we in the conservative base defended the guy from all of the attacks, ridicule, and hate from the left while he was in office. We had his back every single day of his term. And now he pays that support back in this way? It isn’t the betrayal as much as the ingratitude that stands out to me.
I understand him not being able to endorse or vote for Trump; but someone with any sense of integrity could have just said nothing or even “I don’t discuss politics as a former VP”. But to go out of his way to publicly endorse the people who called him an evil, manipulative fool back then is just sad and pathetic.

Why would anyone support the trash that was Dick Cheney? And why would anyone seek his endorsement?

 

[luthervol]

I know you really mean well; but I still don’t think you really understand the average Trump voter at all.
At least in my world; it isn’t that we are FOR Trump. It is that we are AGAINST an Evil and depraved criminal enterprise. I hope that some day you will finally be able to realize just how warped the democrat party has truly become.
I feel like you are stuck on personalities. I am Laser focused on philosophies.

Have you watched the Amazon Prime series The Boys? Homelander is a parody of trump.

It was the Bannon/Star/Trump philosophies that I found repulsive from the beginning.
The fact that they needed trump's personality to be the face of those philosophies is telling.

I hope that someday you and others of a like mind will understand how you were played and at what cost.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Have you watched the Amazon Prime series The Boys? Homelander is a parody of trump.

It was the Bannon/Star/Trump philosophies that I found repulsive from the beginning.
The fact that they needed trump's personality to be the face of those philosophies is telling.

I hope that someday you and others of a like mind will understand how you were played and at what cost.

I harbor no illusions about the nature of Trump and his many flaws. And I agree that it could be called being „played“. But you do not recognize the degree of absolute depravity and evil represented by the democrat party today. Whatever you think of Trump and republicans, they want to make America better. Democrats want to tear it all down and make it into an unrecognizable parody of histories failed centrally planned nations.
But regardless, I now have FOOTBALL on now so I will bow out for the rest of today. Peace all.

 

[luthervol]

I harbor no illusions about the nature of Trump and his many flaws. And I agree that it could be called being „played“. But you do not recognize the degree of absolute depravity and evil represented by the democrat party today. Whatever you think of Trump and republicans, they want to make America better. Democrats want to tear it all down and make it into an unrecognizable parody of histories failed centrally planned nations.

Shockingly, we seem to disagree on where the true depravity and evil lies.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[dovervolz]

I see Luther more as a man who is stuck in the past; sadly supporting a party that no longer exists anywhere but in his memory.

Luther either has a severe case of TDS that he needs professional mental help or he's a low class troll or both

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Isolationism and protectionism in today's world are bankrupt philosophies.

So we need to vote for a Marxist takeover?

I’ll take my chances with Trump and America. I would rather go down knowing I did the right thing rather than giving into global Marxist whims.

 

[USF grad in TN]

Shockingly, we seem to disagree on where the true depravity and evil lies.

IMO it resides on both sides. We just disagree on which team is worse.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

IMO it resides on both sides. We just disagree on which team is worse.

They're equally bad. Social media has been the catalyst for the hyper negative discourse

 

[Carl Pickens]

Questioning now if this is all an act. He knows he’s an older forgotten democrat so now he can just have fun with it.

You’re giving him too much credit…

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Carl Pickens]

Nah CP. Nobody can be that stupid. Luther is just a pathetic troll.

I think you’re half right

 

[volfanhill]

This is why they are trying hard keeping former POTUS from being elected again.

He had 4 years to do that. Why would he now? Did he pinky swear? I laughed out loud the other day when he said if elected he'd realise everything on JFK. He's the one who blocked the release when he was POTUS.

 

[Sea Ray]

lol....It's like trump saying he was going to drain the swamp. A known lie every time he said it.
It's like trump saying he was surrounding himself with the best-a known lie every time he said it
It's like trump leading chants of "lock her up" - a known lie every time he said it.

So you're saying Harris is no better than Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

He had 4 years to do that. Why would he now? Did he pinky swear? I laughed out loud the other day when he said if elected he'd realise everything on JFK. He's the one who blocked the release when he was POTUS.

His first term was, by design, besieged with Dem land minds (Russia, Russia, Russia) that kept him from instituting his policies. This was their gameplan and will be the plan again. I foresee him being much tougher this time.

Regarding Kennedy….you are correct. Something kept him from releasing the files in his first term. I think, that has been discussed with Jr. and he (as he should) will be the one to release the files.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Do you really want the end of free speech?

 

[Zues1]

His first term was, by design, besieged with Dem land minds (Russia, Russia, Russia) that kept him from instituting his policies. This was their gameplan and will be the plan again. I foresee him being much tougher this time.

Regarding Kennedy….you are correct. Something kept him from releasing the files in his first term. I think, that has been discussed with Jr. and he (as he should) will be the one to release the files.

Back room visit probably convinced him to let JFK lie....

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Back room visit probably convinced him to let JFK lie....

Maybe….it will be Jr’s call.