2024 Presidential Race

[BowlBrother85]

Opinions change.

I don't believe for a minute that Vance's truly did. He snuggled up to Trump only for the purpose it served in the way of political opportunism.

Do you really go from wondering if someone is "America's Hitler" into swearing by their every move, and agreeing with everything that they say? This was a seismic shift. I don't buy it. It was too extreme. Only a gullible person would buy it. In other words, Trump voters.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Just waiting for a reason to bust the flag out

I bet you put the car flags on in your garage and take them off before you leave.

 

[volfanhill]

I bet you put the car flags on in your garage and take them off before you leave.

My support is always behind the scene

 

[OrangeTsar]

You can't truthfully say that JD Vance changed his mind about Donald Trump because of how impressed he was with Trump's first term in office. At the time those messages were sent, Trump had already been President for slightly more than 3 years. Vance has previously claimed to have had a change of heart early in Trump's time in office. That was a lie.

2020 proves my point just fine.

JD Vance's support of Donald Trump is disingenuous. It's not based out of respect for Trump's leadership, Trump's character, or for Trump's performance as President, which he has denigrated.

JD Vance changed his tune on Trump completely out of opportunism, political expediency, and what best served his chances for career advancement.

Vance is a fraud and a sell-out. He doesn't honestly like Trump at all. There is nothing principled or honorable about any of that.

Well, you better make peace with your feelings about Vance, because he is going to be in the VP mansion for 4 years, and then in the Whote House until 2036.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Well, you better make peace with your feelings about Vance, because he is going to be in the VP mansion for 4 years, and then in the Whote House until 2036.

LOL. Highly doubtful on either.

.... and why does anyone like him? Just because Trump chose him? Vance is not impressive at all.

 

[Vol8188]

No threads about the Afghan national allowed into the country illegally by the Biden admin who was planning a terrorist attack on Election Day?

 

[VOLS INC.]

No threads about the Afghan national allowed into the country illegally by the Biden admin who was planning a terrorist attack on Election Day?

In B4

“You can’t possibly place any blame on Biden for that”- LG

 

[OrangeTsar]

LOL. Highly doubtful on either.

.... and why does anyone like him? Just because Trump chose him? Vance is not impressive at all.

Have you even read his book? I was a Vance Fan Long before he even entered politics.

 

[BowlBrother85]

No threads about the Afghan national allowed into the country illegally by the Biden admin who was planning a terrorist attack on Election Day?

Maybe they were expecting you to start it .... or it might have to wait until the thread about how Biden is funneling FEMA relief money to illegal immigrants from Haiti has run it's course.

 

[The Sheriff]

Guy never updated the second assassination attempt on Trump to his timeline. I hope he doesn’t fall on the freeway with all of his backpedaling!

 

[BowlBrother85]

Have you even read his book?

That "Hillbilly Elegy" junk? Seriously?

 

[Vol8188]

Maybe they were expecting you to start it .... or it might have to wait until the thread about how Biden is funneling FEMA relief money to illegal immigrants from Haiti has run it's course.

You mean the thing you proved everyone right about?

 

[OrangeTsar]

That "Hillbilly Elegy" junk? Seriously?

So I will take that as a „no“

 

[newyorkvol]

I love how inferences of people’s true beliefs are made in only one direction. If one side says “the sky is blue,” the other says, “no. They’re a science denier. We all know they think the sky is green.”

 

[OrangeTsar]

I don't believe for a minute that Vance's truly did. He snuggled up to Trump only for the purpose it served in the way of political opportunism.

Do you really go from wondering if someone is "America's Hitler" into swearing by their every move, and agreeing with everything that they say? This was a seismic shift. I don't buy it. It was too extreme. Only a gullible person would buy it. In other words, Trump voters.

FWIW, I also totally despised Trump in 2016 and through a lot of his term. But when I saw the results he got and saw that he did none of the things the left had breathlessly predicted, I slowly came around. I have no reason to disbelieve that Vance didn’t undergo a similar change in outlook.

 

[JOEY’S ALL VOL !!!]

But but we're not morons

Yep, you tell em! IQ’s in the high “ digets”!

 

[Vol8188]

Guy never updated the second assassination attempt on Trump to his timeline. I hope he doesn’t fall on the freeway with all of his backpedaling!

lol what? You’re accusing Nate Silver of backpedaling? Regarding what exactly?

 

[BowlBrother85]

I love how inferences of people’s true beliefs are made in only one direction. If one side says “the sky is blue,” the other says, “no. They’re a science denier. We all know they think the sky is green.”

When someone is wondering if a person is "America's Hitler," and then they become that same person's staunchest ally, once it benefits them (politically, professionally, financially or socially) to do so? There will doubts regarding their sincerity. JD Vance's shift in tone on Donald Trump is what has been to the extreme in the opposite direction.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

No threads about the Afghan national allowed into the country illegally by the Biden admin who was planning a terrorist attack on Election Day?

Nope.

 

[CobbVol]

FWIW, I also totally despised Trump in 2016 and through a lot of his term. But when I saw the results he got and saw that he did none of the things the left had breathlessly predicted, I slowly came around. I have no reason to disbelieve that Vance didn’t undergo a similar change in outlook.

When it is a communist democrat they simply evolve. With others they are liars.

 

[BowlBrother85]

FWIW, I also totally despised Trump in 2016 and through a lot of his term. But when I saw the results he got and saw that he did none of the things the left had breathlessly predicted, I slowly came around. I have no reason to disbelieve that Vance didn’t undergo a similar change in outlook.

Apples to oranges. The primary reason to doubt Vance's sincerity, is that it strongly benefited him professionally and politically to make the dramatic shift that he did. It gives the appearance of opportunism.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Apples to oranges. The primary reason to doubt Vance's sincerity, is that it strongly benefited him professionally and politically to make the dramatic shift that he did. It gives the appearance of opportunism.

Yawn. You're so redundant.
You're a nut.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yawn. Lol ... you're so redundant.

Also, Vance was specifically critical of Trump in a 2020 message for not fulfilling his economic agenda .... That never changed from that point in 2020, until Trump left office less than a year later. So why the dramatic shift of opinion?

 

[OrangeTsar]

Apples to oranges. The primary reason to doubt Vance's sincerity, is that it strongly benefited him professionally and politically to make the dramatic shift that he did. It gives the appearance of opportunism.

Then feel free to not vote for him. You can always vote for the truly authentic Kamala Harris who has NEVER changed an opinion for political expediency

 

[Orangeburst]

Have you even read his book? I was a Vance Fan Long before he even entered politics.

Is it justme, ordoes that read like Korean?