2024 Presidential Race

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hUTch2002 said:
I agree both sides parade celebrity endorsements around like it matters. To be fair, it likely does matter to some as some would rather be told what to do rather than decide for themselves.

I don’t know. I’m definitely not voting Harris and do find Trump to be less worse than her as she has absolutely no substance. I struggle with whether that means I should vote for him. 95% of the crap you hear about Trump isn’t true so that’s not my reservation at all. In fact, all that stupidity almost makes me want to vote for him because it’s funny watching the left lose their minds over him. However, the man spends like crazy and I definitely don’t like him personally based on what I’ve seen and heard him say and do. Covid wasn’t good but I do allow that it would’ve been bad under anyone and really was a no win situation. I have two days to decide as I’m not waiting until Election Day.

Have a good one huff!
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You really don't know who you're voting for yet? Wild
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Maybe Legend, Oprah, Swift/Kelse, et al can move to a more tolerant country like Saudi Arabia, China, Venezuela, Somalia, or North Korea.
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Or we could just make America better. Idk, just a thought.

Is this your response to Trump when he says MAGA?
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I agree both sides parade celebrity endorsements around like it matters. To be fair, it likely does matter to some as some would rather be told what to do rather than decide for themselves.

I don’t know. I’m definitely not voting Harris and do find Trump to be less worse than her as she has absolutely no substance. I struggle with whether that means I should vote for him. 95% of the crap you hear about Trump isn’t true so that’s not my reservation at all. In fact, all that stupidity almost makes me want to vote for him because it’s funny watching the left lose their minds over him. However, the man spends like crazy and I definitely don’t like him personally based on what I’ve seen and heard him say and do. Covid wasn’t good but I do allow that it would’ve been bad under anyone and really was a no win situation. I have two days to decide as I’m not waiting until Election Day.

Have a good one huff!
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Sad that this isn’t even the least believable “not a Trump supporter” bit playing out this cycle.
 
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McDad said:
All politicians lie. Which requires us to parse the lie to discern what is going on.

Trump's "i will suggest" is much less concerning than any candidate (including him) saying, "i will push for or "there will be"....[this violation of rights]. One feel panderish. The others feel like a closely held belief.
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Even suggesting a law making flag burning a crime is wrong.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Don't you? I stll wanna make it better
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I live in a great version. But I don't throw a tantrum with every election as if my personal freedom and safety depends on the right candidate.

Your version of 'better' may not be everyone's version. The people who don't agree may threaten to leave.

See the folly of the cyclical nature?
 
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hog88 said:
It's somewhat concerning to me, making such a suggestion coupled with his egregious property rights violation (bump stock ban) lends me to believe that he's not much different than Harris when it comes to liberty.
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Which viable politician is actually favoring liberty?

My position is in line with what I shared last week, I don't care as much about a politician's personal position. I care about adherence to our foundations. Trump can suggest but it is a whole different animal to get that stupid suggestion across the finish line.
 
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McDad said:
Which viable politician is actually favoring liberty?

My position is in line with what I shared last week, I don't care as much about a politician's personal position. I care about adherence to our foundations. Trump can suggest but it is a whole different animal to get that stupid suggestion across the finish line.
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The sad part is he believes this to be red meat. So he believes the majority of his supporters want to limit speech
 
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McDad said:
Which viable politician is actually favoring liberty?

My position is in line with what I shared last week, I don't care as much about a politician's personal position. I care about adherence to our foundations. Trump can suggest but it is a whole different animal to get that stupid suggestion across the finish line.
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If it was his first "suggestion" I would agree but he has a record of action which makes it concerning. Now if the question was do I think he could get it passed, no I'm not concerned about that.
 
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volfanhill said:
The sad part is he believes this to be red meat. So he believes the majority of his supporters want to limit speech
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Treatment of the flag is such an emotional issue.
It's like when recruits and players new to the Vols step on the power T in the locker room. People get hot about that stuff.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Well, bye.
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Sure, John. Sure. That makes Whoopi and also that canker sore, Rosie O’Donnell. Let’s examine the rest of the list from 2016. Miley Cyrus, Barbara Streisand, Bryan Cranston, Snoop Dog, Chelsea Handler, George Lopez, Samuel L Jackson, Jon Stewart, Cher, Raven Symone, Neve Campbell, Ne-Yo, Chloe Sevigny, and others. So….., why haven’t you all left? You doubled down on how serious you were about it. C’mon all you big balled tough nuts. What say you in 2024?? I’ll even help you pack if he wins this time.
 
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