2024 Presidential Race

[85SugarVol]

Yes. Trump's appeal to Hispanics is really surprising, especially given his not just anti-immigrant rhetoric, but genetics claims.

Still clinging to identity politics? Even after last night?

 

[Freiwillige]

I wish that Rush were still alive to celebrate this.

 

[McDad]

It wouldn't - she would have dropped that like a hot potato when she took office and it would have never passed Congress if it made it that far. It was just a ploy to pander to far-left economic illiterates who make up a sizeable portion of her party.

I really like it when you post here. You bring well thought bjectivity.

We need more of that.

 

[05_never_again]

If a trump wants to ensure GOP victories for the foreseeable future he will pass legislation with a Republican led congress to require voter ID for all elections, while also attaching an addendum that proof of citizenship must be required to obtain a drivers license

Elections are controlled at the state level.

 

[hog88]

As a right-leaning moderate (I didn't vote for Trump but was pulling for Harris to lose), here's my fear. Republicans have wrestled political control in all federal branches and are pulling to the right as hard as they can. But the American voters retaliate in a few years and all that pulling turns out to be a slingshot effect that sends us way to the left of what we've ever seen before.

I guess what I'm saying is, R's have ALL the power right now. So they better use it wisely in the next couple years. Everyone is watching and there are no excuses. If they F this up y'all ain't seen nothin yet from the loony left. If they do well, it will force the D's to move to center.

I don't see the pull to the right that you speak of. I don't see them reducing the size of the federal government, cutting spending or doing much of anything a party "pulling to the right" would do. The Rs are still left of center and have a ways to go before they get "right".

 

[05_never_again]

I really like it when you post here. You bring well thought bjectivity.

We need more of that.

I do lurk in here often, but there are only select occasions where I feel like I can add to the conversation.

 

[MontyPython]

"We had no wars, for four years, we had no wars. Except we defeated ISIS," Trump proclaimed.

"They said ‘he will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop the wars."


Looking forward to seeing how Trump does this. He's got:

(1) Israel/Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah
(2) Russia/Ukraine
(3) Yemen/Saudi Arabia

So all Trump's rhetoric and bluster goes out the window on January 20th.

Will be happy when he stops the wars *cough*.

 

[BreatheUT]

Is Biden still a top 10 POTUS and Trump a bottom 10 POTUS of all-time?

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Again, not my party. And I don't think any of that talk was serious.

So, is this one of those ideas where she had to say it to get elected (Bernie Sanders)?

If so, the democrats are more delusional than I thought.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

This is where it’s Biden’s fault for running again, IMO.

Once they kicked him to the curb, the party had to quickly rally behind one person and picking a senator or governor may have opened the door to other senators and governors asking “why not me?” A contested convention would have been a mess.

@Orangeslice13 had this conversation when it happened. He pointed out that she was an awful candidate, and I agreed, but I thought she was the best choice they could make under the circumstances. Circumstances created by Biden leveraging his incumbency to squash the primary field before it got started.

Ironically, I’m not sure he would have done much worse if they had just left him on the ticket. That might be one the worst performances by a Democrat since Mondale.

They lost when they chose Walz and caved in to the HAMAS faction of the party.

The math was that they had to keep PA in the fold to win EC. Very clear math exercise that they failed.

 

[Orangeburst]

I really like it when you post here. You bring well thought bjectivity.

We need more of that.

we need more bjectivity?

 

[McDad]

I do lurk in here often, but there are only select occasions where I feel like I can add to the conversation.

uh...yeah, me too.

I'm all substance all the time.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

Well I guess all the celebrities who vowed to leave the country if Trump won are busy packing and booking flight reservations this morning. LOL!

 

[luthervol]

Sounds like you are starting the day on a good path! I hope we can all keep the poison out of our mouths and come together a bit.

Have a great day sir

That would certainly be a welcomed relief.

 

[McDad]

we need more bjectivity?

Of course. Now that Harris is out, bjectivity will diminish

 

[whodeycin85]

"We had no wars, for four years, we had no wars. Except we defeated ISIS," Trump proclaimed.

"They said ‘he will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop the wars."


Looking forward to seeing how Trump does this. He's got:

(1) Israel/Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah
(2) Russia/Ukraine
(3) Yemen/Saudi Arabia

So all Trump's rhetoric and bluster goes out the window on January 20th.

Will be happy when he stops the wars *cough*.

What are you gonna say if he does stop them?

 

[McDad]

That would certainly be a welcomed relief.

Does this signify a change in your previously stated philosophy of agitation when posting?

 

[85SugarVol]

The majority always wants to, then says no when it's in the minority. Both sides do it.

What GOP Congress members have called for ending the filibuster?

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Gotta set my alarm to check back in here tomorrow around, say, 11 PM.

The MAGA meltdown should be epic.

EDIT: Please don't burn down my love shack.

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[InVOLuntary]

Trump won last night for the same reason he lost in 20: the economy

I think the border crisis was big too. I think bussing all these folks around the country and dropping them in these sanctuary cities, spread "joy" and shined a different light on it. It forced the MSM to cover it. They could no longer hide it.

 

[hog88]

If a trump wants to ensure GOP victories for the foreseeable future he will pass legislation with a Republican led congress to require voter ID for all elections, while also attaching an addendum that proof of citizenship must be required to obtain a drivers license

So you want the federal government to assume more power over states?

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[luthervol]

Does this signify a change in your previously stated philosophy of agitation when posting?

It depends on if things need to be agitated. So far today I've let a couple of douche posters go unanswered,

 

[Jackcrevol]

We were getting "evil" no matter who won. You think Kamala is somehow "pure of heart"? Politicians are typically not "good" people.

Interesting Weez.

I'd tend to agree with your comment. It would be naive to assume someone desiring power as having purely altruistic intention, as there is some inherent level of selfishness, on face of it.

Kamala spent time in public service, as well as prosecution of child sex crimes. That isn't easy to do. Issue is she just couldn't be taken seriously by voters, imo.

Comparatively, we have a body of work for Trump. No need to go back through its entirety. We know, I know he is not a good person.

Neither was a good choice, best news of this election, hopefully, is that this is Trump's last dance.

 

[MontyPython]

What are you gonna say if he does stop them?

I'd probably have a heart attack. I mean, when was the last time they actually stopped fighting in the Middle East? It's what they do, and it will go on forever.

As for Ukraine, I think we do have leverage there - Tell Ukraine and Russia the current front lines are frozen as of X date - and that on that date, Ukraine is admitted to NATO. So if Russia continues the war, they're at war with NATO (they won't).

Saudi Arabian / Yemen war. Another Jim Dandy there. Probably we threaten Yemen with all-out war if they don't stop. IDK.