2024 Presidential Race

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MontyPython said:
I'd probably have a heart attack. I mean, when was the last time they actually stopped fighting in the Middle East? It's what they do, and it will go on forever.

As for Ukraine, I think we do have leverage there - Tell Ukraine and Russia the current front lines are frozen as of X date - and that on that date, Ukraine is admitted to NATO. So if Russia continues the war, they're at war with NATO (they won't).

Saudi Arabian / Yemen war. Another Jim Dandy there. Probably we threaten Yemen with all-out war if they don't stop. IDK.
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Who was fighting during the Abraham accords?
Do you consider fighting a terrorist organization war,?
 
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05_never_again said:
Just clicking through a bunch of different states and it is staggering to me just how poorly Harris performed overall. There isn't a single area I've seen where she's going to do just as well as Joe did, much less outperform him.

There's still about half of the vote left to count there, but she's even running 4 percentage points lower than Joe did in freaking California, her home state.
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It was my understanding she raised more funds in late race, and maybe even outspent.


I'm looking around. Where did it go?

I'll give Rump credit, he was everywhere. Frankly, as much as it pains me. He outworked her.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
This is where it’s Biden’s fault for running again, IMO.

Once they kicked him to the curb, the party had to quickly rally behind one person and picking a senator or governor may have opened the door to other senators and governors asking “why not me?” A contested convention would have been a mess.

@Orangeslice13 had this conversation when it happened. He pointed out that she was an awful candidate, and I agreed, but I thought she was the best choice they could make under the circumstances. Circumstances created by Biden leveraging his incumbency to squash the primary field before it got started.

Ironically, I’m not sure he would have done much worse if they had just left him on the ticket. That might be one the worst performances by a Democrat since Mondale.
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Pretty evident you watched the media bloc with your morning coffee. THat is just a regurgitation of the blame game they kicked off with today. Pretty sad.

It was Biden's fault...He should have got out 2 years ago... Kamala was an unknown and only had a few months...yadayadayada...

Fact is she is a hollow human. Nothing to offer. She achieved her stance in life by way of the only talent her mouth has. Could never simply answer a direct question with a well thought policy answer that made sense. She could only defelct and provide word salad answers. Simply put, if she coud have done just one basic thing expected of a presidential candidate she would have easily won the election.

But thank God for America the machine has been rebuked. They will have no one to control that will have any power.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
It was my understanding she raised more funds in late race, and maybe even outspent.


I'm looking around. Where did it go?

I'll give Rump credit, he was everywhere. Frankly, as much as it pains me. He outworked her.
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He appealed to the people because he went where they are. He could sit with Rogan for 3hrs and sound like a human. Not understanding the huge shift in consumed media was a major misstep but I'm not sure she had the personality to pull it off anyways
 
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MontyPython said:
I'd probably have a heart attack. I mean, when was the last time they actually stopped fighting in the Middle East? It's what they do, and it will go on forever.

As for Ukraine, I think we do have leverage there - Tell Ukraine and Russia the current front lines are frozen as of X date - and that on that date, Ukraine is admitted to NATO. So if Russia continues the war, they're at war with NATO (they won't).

Saudi Arabian / Yemen war. Another Jim Dandy there. Probably we threaten Yemen with all-out war if they don't stop. IDK.
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This one said just a few months ago that the ME was quieter than it has been in 2 decades.

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FFS, Apple outing my ADHD a couple times a day now.
GVF said:
Pretty evident you watched the media bloc with your morning coffee. THat is just a regurgitation of the blame game they kicked off with today. Pretty sad.

It was Biden's fault...He should have got out 2 years ago... Kamala was an unknown and only had a few months...yadayadayada...

Fact is she is a hollow human. Nothing to offer. She achieved her stance in life by way of the only talent her mouth has. Could never simply answer a direct question with a well thought policy answer that made sense. She could only defelct and provide word salad answers. Simply put, if she coud have done just one basic thing expected of a presidential candidate she would have easily won the election.

But thank God for America the machine has been rebuked. They will have no one to control that will have any power.
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I don’t watch television news. That’s just common sense.
 
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MontyPython said:
I'd probably have a heart attack. I mean, when was the last time they actually stopped fighting in the Middle East? It's what they do, and it will go on forever.

As for Ukraine, I think we do have leverage there - Tell Ukraine and Russia the current front lines are frozen as of X date - and that on that date, Ukraine is admitted to NATO. So if Russia continues the war, they're at war with NATO (they won't).

Saudi Arabian / Yemen war. Another Jim Dandy there. Probably we threaten Yemen with all-out war if they don't stop. IDK.
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You really do want WWIII don't you?
 
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