2024 Presidential Race

[wtmvol]

I don't see the pull to the right that you speak of. I don't see them reducing the size of the federal government, cutting spending or doing much of anything a party "pulling to the right" would do. The Rs are still left of center and have a ways to go before they get "right".

I don't think there is a fiscally conservative right anymore among the political class. I guess I was thinking other issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

 

[Volfan8282]

I didn't pay a lot of attention to Walz, but I liked that he seemed like he wasn’t somebody who came up wanting to get into politics. Otherwise, I don’t know why he was bad other than what Mojo pointed out: She needed PA.

You should have paid more attention to Walz then.

 

[theFallGuy]

Sore loser American liberals lose their minds over Trump's victory

The outpouring of support for Donald Trump at polling stations across America has left some of the nation's most notorious liberal news media figures on the verge of meltdown

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[TheDirector]

"We had no wars, for four years, we had no wars. Except we defeated ISIS," Trump proclaimed.

"They said ‘he will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop the wars."


Looking forward to seeing how Trump does this. He's got:

(1) Israel/Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah
(2) Russia/Ukraine
(3) Yemen/Saudi Arabia

So all Trump's rhetoric and bluster goes out the window on January 20th.

Will be happy when he stops the wars *cough*.

1) For the middle east, he will reinstate the sanctions against Iran thus cutting off their ability to sell oil and then take that money and fund Hamas/Hezbolah etc. It made no sense to ease sanctions against Iran as they shouted death to America. He will also push peace treaties similar to the Abraham Accords that promoted a alliance of Muslim nations against Iran. I suspect Israel will not stop in Gaza until Hamas is eliminated or all the masterminds of the attack against them are eliminated. America did the same after 9/11 and October 7th is their 9/11.

2)Russia/Ukraine: I suspect he will try to make some sort of deal to stop the war. It was caused by the disgraceful weakness that Biden showed daily on the international stage. Russia saw the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal and Putin knew he could do whatever he wanted after that. Biden's dementia ridden gibberish speeches didn't help either.

3) Similar to (1) with promoting peace treaties and getting some of the Muslim countries in the middle east on the same page.

What's certain is that having a strong leader like Trump gives the World a better shot at peace than Biden being mocked around the world as he wonders out of pictures with world leaders lost in his dementia riddled world.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yes. Trump's appeal to Hispanics is really surprising, especially given his not just anti-immigrant rhetoric, but genetics claims.

What was that about being independent? LOL

Nah you are left thru and thru, because what you are saying simply isn't true.

 

[Switch 625]

I think his title until inauguration should be “President-Elect President Trump”

 

[GVF]

The point which sailed over your head: Kamala wouldn’t have been the nominee if it weren’t for Biden announcing that he would seek reelection and crushing an open primary.

That's what they get for trotting him out all that time as a healthy and mentally astute president. The machine was in denial for two years over his condition and now they want to blame Biden. Harris should have never been VP. She didn't get past 2-3% in the previous primaries. Biden would have never been the nominee if they had let the american democratic voters make up their own mind. He was flailing in his own primaries in '20..then boom...everyone starts dropping out and all of a sudden a man that did not have enough clout to win an open primary on his own is all of a sudden the front runner and nominee. An election he would have never won if millions more votes had not been cast than there were breathing human voters to account for. The blame game for democrats go much further back than blaming 2024 Biden.


Furthermore, they still had time to operate an open primary and not just annoint an idiot. They booted RFK Jr. down the road who was far superior to Harris. Shapiro would have been nominated ahead of Harris in a late billed primary. And since when do you not have open primaries even with an incumbent. You always have primaries. Period. They elected not to have a primary period. The fault for Dems lays squarely on the machine that did it all wrong. This election was about rebuking one world government and the awful direction of the country.

1996 Dem Primaries. Even knowing Bill was going win the Dem ticket, they executed the process democratically. An ideal that is lost on today's Dem party.
"With the advantage of incumbency, Bill Clinton's path to renomination by the Democratic Party was uneventful. At the 1996 Democratic National Convention, Clinton - along with incumbent Vice President Al Gore - was renominated following a primary race in which he faced only token opposition. Perennial candidate Lyndon LaRouche qualified for one delegate from Virginia and one delegate from Louisiana, but the state parties refused to award him delegates and the First District Court of Appeals upheld their decision.[1] Former Pennsylvania governor Bob Casey contemplated a challenge to Clinton, but health problems forced Casey to abandon a bid.[2][3] That left Jimmy Griffin, the former mayor of Buffalo, New York, as the highest-ranking challenger still in the race. After finishing in eighth place, behind even the perennial candidates, in the New Hampshire primaries, Griffin dropped out of the race. Clinton easily won primaries nationwide, with margins consistently higher than 80%.[4]

 

[theFallGuy]

This is so lame. She can't even come out and speak to her supporters that waited all night there and admit defeat? Ya'll wasted your time supporting this buffoon.

Moment Team Harris said Kamala wouldn't speak as fans await concession

Cedric Richmond, co-chair of the Harris campaign, made the announcement at her alma mater shortly after midnight, as it became clear Harris would not become president.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[n_huffhines]

So we're cool with price fixing? I thought that's why we hated Kamala. This guy is such a wild card.

 

[hog88]

I don't think there is a fiscally conservative right anymore among the political class. I guess I was thinking other issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

On abortion I don't see returning the decision to the states as pulling to the right but I can see how many would.

 

[05_never_again]

I didn't pay a lot of attention to Walz, but I liked that he seemed like he wasn’t somebody who came up wanting to get into politics. Otherwise, I don’t know why he was bad other than what Mojo pointed out: She needed PA.

Walz didn't add anything to the ticket and was a complete goofball. I don't think Vance really added anything to Trump's ticket either, but at least he's well-spoken/articulate and young; he could be a standard bearer/successor for Trumpism after he's gone. It didn't matter because it would have just been a cherry on top, but I wonder if Trump could have won VA if he picked Youngkin.

Kamala herself, relative to other members of Congress, is pretty liberal and from a liberal state; she could have gone with an option (like Shapiro from PA, but there were other good ones too) that moderated the ticket a bit.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How glorious to know in two months we're kicking out Joe, Harris , Buttigieg, Rachel Lavien and the whole fruit loop administration.

Mayorkas, Garner... Puddinhead and The Cackling One.

 

[hog88]

So we're cool with price fixing? I thought that's why we hated Kamala. This guy is such a wild card.

Did he say the words "price controls"?

 

[theFallGuy]

damn. LFG

 

[hog88]

Mayorkas, Garner... Puddinhead and The Cackling One.

AND GARLAND! That MFer can crawl back under the rock he came from along with the most evil member of Biden's cabinet Yellen.

 

[theFallGuy]

I wonder what Tesla stock is doing

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I heard that Trumps already under investigation for being a serial woman beater…

How dare you assume they were women.

 

[05_never_again]

Yes. Trump's appeal to Hispanics is really surprising, especially given his not just anti-immigrant rhetoric, but genetics claims.

I'd describe it more as anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric, at least from Trump himself. I will admit that some people in Trump's orbit and rank-and-file MAGA folks do have views that could be described more as anti-immigrant, which does scare Hispanics off.

Ultimately, appealing to Hispanics as any other working class voting bloc is more effective than appealing to them as members of a racial/ethnic/identity group. Trump's gains notwithstanding, Hispanics do reliably vote D but that doesn't mean they are particularly woke or socially liberal; it's really to the contrary. And if you came here legally, my suspicion is that you really aren't a fan of people who broke the rules to come here, which could push you to Trump. Ds seem to underestimate that.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

AND GARLAND! That MFer can crawl back under the rock he came from along with the most evil member of Biden's cabinet Yellen.

Yeah I typed it wrong. I hope Trump fires that POS in the first 5 minutes after the oath of office.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Still no word or even a sneeze from Harris's HQ.
She still must be really too drunk to forget to
address her supporters. What a lousy loser she is.

 

[lawgator1]

I think his title until inauguration should be “President-Elect President Trump”

PEPT.

Sure, why not.

 

[me_grag53]

The 50 million who don't "like" her still view her as a better option than trump.

How are you guys still not grasping that point after 8 years????

Why can't the dems just admit that she was a horrible candidare?

 

[theFallGuy]

Still no word or even a sneeze from Harris HQ.

tells you everything

 

[hog88]

Yeah I typed it wrong. I hope Trump fires that POS in the first 5 minutes after the oath of office.

He'll be gone before inauguration day. The rats will be scurrying out of the DOJ days before.

 

[Ritzwatch]

So we're cool with price fixing? I thought that's why we hated Kamala. This guy is such a wild card.

Huff, take a breath today.

I am not being a smart ass; rather, I am trying to be a VN brother here.

If you start with this the day after the election, you are going to let this consume you over the next 4+ years.

It will not end in happiness for you.

Please just take measure of this. Take care of yourself. If you need a break from this place, take it. We will welcome you back whenever you are ready.