2024 Presidential Race

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85SugarVol said:
You mean the States are free to act in accordance with the will of their people, as long as they don’t run afoul of the BoR?

I don’t know. Sounds kinda sketch…
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I think it sounds like a fantastic proposal. Let's deem it a "Constitutional Republic." As a second order of business, I believe we should devise our own system of weights and measurements.
 
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McDad said:
How much weight do you think your one write-in vote has?
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The funny thing is that for a lot if not most of us our singular votes don't matter due to the demographics of where we live. There are very few posting on the board right now who will be voting in districts that actually matter for the general election.

So whether I vote for Chase Oliver or Tim Tebow I'd argue my stupid ass vote counts about as much as most everyone else's.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I think it sounds like a fantastic proposal. Let's deem it a "Constitutional Republic." As a second order of business, I believe we should devise our own system of weights and measurements.
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even weights and measurements is ideologically divided with imperial and metric. in fact, I just realized our problems began when we started using the metric system. 🤔
 
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85SugarVol said:
Impossible for him - but he should be taking the high road here.

Tell the American people there will be no more political prosecution under his administration. Tell the American people we don’t do that here.

The People are not fans of it.
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Problem is once the Dems get back on power they will do it again... We need to fight this way in the mid not just telling from the higher ground
 
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85SugarVol said:
Impossible for him - but he should be taking the high road here.

Tell the American people there will be no more political prosecution under his administration. Tell the American people we don’t do that here.

The People are not fans of it.
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I do not agree. If Trump wins he will be gone in 4 years and the Dems and deep state will then be back to their lawfare and corruption. Trump must go after these corrupt leftists and their lawfare to make them see there will be consequences for their corrupt actions, show them the US is not a banana republic. Doing nothing encourages more corruption from the left. I think the American people will have no problem seeing corrupt leftist Judges and DA's be held accountable for their lawfare corruption. It is not lawfare on Trump's part to prosecute the corruption in the deep state gov't, it's justice.

Trump is taking the high road in going after gov't corruption and not letting the status quo of the deep state continue. I do not seeing letting Fani Willis get away with lying under oath and embezzling public funds as acceptable, much less letting her get away with the lawfare against Trump and others.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The funny thing is that for a lot if not most of us our singular votes don't matter due to the demographics of where we live. There are very few posting on the board right now who will be voting in districts that actually matter for the general election.

So whether I vote for Chase Oliver or Tim Tebow I'd argue my stupid ass vote counts about as much as most everyone else's.
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That realization combined with completely unsatisfactory candidates is why I don't bother anymore.
 
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MercyPercy said:
So whether I vote for Chase Oliver or Tim Tebow I'd argue my stupid ass vote counts about as much as most everyone else's.
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I would disagree given the thresholds put in place for 3rd parties to be included in the future. It may not do much for the current election but could affect future ones. That's how I see my vote and laugh at anyone dumb enough to call utva throwaway when they support a completely rigged process
 
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VOLS INC. said:
And I understand why people just can’t do it. They either vote for another candidate or abstain. I get it.


What I don’t get is why LG believes that conservatives should stick staunchly to their principles, stay home on Election Day, and watch Biden destroy this country for 4 more years because voting for Trump would go against our principles.

Meanwhile the left is free to abandon any and all principles they have because stopping Trump is of the utmost importance.

No one likes lying politicians. But I don’t see many honest ones, if any.
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This is the liberal left's play. Their modus operandi. It's cunning trickery. It's one of the ways evil always get the upper hand throughout history with mental games of the unprincipled toward the principled.

How do you think our society only moves in one direction and that's further left? Luther speaks of it all the time. The left has several cunning plays including evoking racism, sexism, homophobia, slavery once Republicans are in charge to ensure bad laws aren't retracted for the real good of society.

I'm not saying all conservatives should vote for Trump. I am saying Biden is horrid, and is bottom of the barrel. If a person has policy issues with Trump don't vote for him. If you have personality issues then you may want to try to get over it. Four more years of Biden would send this country into a tail spin and we are already in it. Just look at the lawfare alone.

These tactics are the same reason democrats stick together to get bills passed while republicans do not even when they have the majority. They know how to lose.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
I do not agree. If Trump wins he will be gone in 4 years and the Dems and deep state will then be back to their lawfare and corruption. Trump must go after these corrupt leftists and their lawfare to make them see there will be consequences for their corrupt actions, show them the US is not a banana republic. Doing nothing encourages more corruption from the left. I think the American people will have no problem seeing corrupt leftist Judges and DA's be held accountable for their lawfare corruption. It is not lawfare on Trump's part to prosecute the corruption in the deep state gov't, it's justice.

Trump is taking the high road in going after gov't corruption and not letting the status quo of the deep state continue. I do not seeing letting Fani Willis get away with lying under oath and embezzling public funds as acceptable, much less letting her get away with the lawfare against Trump and others.
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BreatheUT said:
This is the liberal left's play. Their modus operandi. It's cunning trickery. It's one of the ways evil always get the upper hand throughout history with mental games of the unprincipled toward the principled.

How do you think our society only moves in one direction and that's further left? Luther speaks of it all the time. The left has several cunning plays including evoking racism, sexism, homophobia, slavery once Republicans are in charge to ensure bad laws aren't retracted for the real good of society.
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While I agree, I also see Rs moving us further left. Whether that is from fear of what Ds will say or do, or it is their own version of socialism, I don't really know.
 
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