2024 Transfer Portal Thread

#901
#901
GoodTimeVol said:
I agree with what you said however I was responding to this post below…we ran the offense to precision every game however when the supporting cast didn’t meet their averages in scoring on the year or didn’t make wide open shots we then deferred to DK to be our offense and we were two games away from the title game in retrospect. Bringing up the Purdue game is hypocritical when they essentially relied on one player as well… the narrative that the offense was too reliant on DK is simply not true…
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The offense was not overly reliant on DK night in and night out. It also wasn’t for a 40 minute period in any game, that I recall. My point was simply that when we became overly reliant on DK to create (stopped any off ball action, just running high PNR with 3 guys standing around) you rarely saw the offense return to its peak flow and constant movement that we have seen thrive under Barnes in the same night (and as SF said, this was also when DK and the team was at its best). Building off that, having multiple 10-12 PPG guys to fill the DK sized hole, will likely keep us in an offensive rhythm for 40 minutes and keep all 5 men on the court engaged and looking to score.

Purdue is somewhat of an anomalous team to counter this argument with - they have a 7’4” Frankenstein that is bigger and stronger than everyone on the court and also gets a better whistle than anyone on the court. Of course their offense is going to run best through him. Running it through him also creates better looks on the perimeter and you don’t need as much off ball movement to do so, considering teams will literally triple team Edey at times.

I do agree with your earlier point that we are a few missed good looks from playing this weekend and that we had other guys like ZZ and Jonas not step up when needed. But it’s simply a fact that the players on the court became too comfortable with DK creating his own shot and bailing them out at times. Barnes and the team themselves have said as much in multiple press conferences this season.
 
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#902
#902
TrippieRedd said:
ZZ
Lanier
Shack
Thomas
Aidoo/Awaka

Not a bad lineup at all
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Then have
Carr
Dillione
Jp
Cade
Dj
Off the Bench.
Def would be top 20 team in America.
Offensive would worry me some, but I would put money Tennessee would be 1 again in defensive Kenpom metrics with that lineup.
 
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#903
#903
D3Athlete said:
Then have
Carr
Dillione
Jp
Cade
Dj
Off the Bench.
Def would be top 20 team in America.
Offensive would worry me some, but I would put money Tennessee would be 1 again in defensive Kenpom metrics with that lineup.
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This is going to sound bad, but if DJ leaves, I hope we can get another player like Gainey, as another option. (Multiple years, but can play immediately off the bench)
 
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#904
#904
GoodTimeVol said:
I agree with what you said however I was responding to this post below…we ran the offense to precision every game however when the supporting cast didn’t meet their averages in scoring on the year or didn’t make wide open shots we then deferred to DK to be our offense and we were two games away from the title game in retrospect. Bringing up the Purdue game is hypocritical when they essentially relied on one player as well… the narrative that the offense was too reliant on DK is simply not true…
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You apparently do not understand what hypocritical means. Saying Purdue's game is built entirely on Edey is fact. Saying that our offense is not built on standing still and giving DK the ball is also a fact. Purdue's entire game is built on feeding the ball to a monster two feet from the basket who either tackles someone and drops the ball in, or kicks it out to a shooter. That's their game. Period. That isn't an example of hypocrisy. It is an example of two different styles of play and an extremely different personnel situation. The incidences we're talking about were not when "we ran the offense to precision" but just the opposite. Berry is saying that the style of our offense will always be healthier when we continue to do what we're good at, and it is plausible/probable that points per minute can be spread across a larger group with the same result. We haven't even covered the fact that we also had some greater defensive weaknesses with DK on the court. Hopefully that gap will be closed too.
 
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#905
#905
berryvol said:
This. Replacing DK is going to be a multi-player effort next season. We can do it, but expecting any one single guy to come in and have a similar impact is crazy and unfair to our new players.
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Exactly, and having 3-4 guys who can score the ball will always make us more difficult to defend and not subject to the scoring droughts that have killed us in big spots.

The effect that DK could have on the program moving forward is enormous. It changes the perception of the UT / Barnes player from simply defense-defense-defense, and creates a "why not me?" approach that kids and parents who might not have considered UT before might take now. Dalton will be an ambassador for the program, and any success he has in the NBA will only help with not only transfers, but HS recruits.
 
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#908
#908
TrippieRedd said:
The one thing I randomly love about both Thomas and Lanier is the fact that they are both 88% FT shooters.

Also LOVE that Thomas is a rebounder. Think both are home runs
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We badly need ZZ to return to his automatic FT form next season. He absolutely killed us with his FT shooting in multiple games this season - even missed 2-3 massive ones that could’ve stopped Purdue’s big first half run on Sunday.
 
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#910
#910
berryvol said:
We badly need ZZ to return to his automatic FT form next season. He absolutely killed us with his FT shooting in multiple games this season - even missed 2-3 massive ones that could’ve stopped Purdue’s big first half run on Sunday.
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Same with Aidoo. For a kid with his touch that gets to the line pretty often, he needs to be 75% minimum. ZZ should absolutely be 80% plus.
 
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#911
#911
TrippieRedd said:
This is going to sound bad, but if DJ leaves, I hope we can get another player like Gainey, as another option. (Multiple years, but can play immediately off the bench)
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Fully understandable. Another depth piece that can develop into a quality player.
 
#914
#914
Stoerner Fumbles said:
You apparently do not understand what hypocritical means. Saying Purdue's game is built entirely on Edey is fact. Saying that our offense is not built on standing still and giving DK the ball is also a fact. Purdue's entire game is built on feeding the ball to a monster two feet from the basket who either tackles someone and drops the ball in, or kicks it out to a shooter. That's their game. Period. That isn't an example of hypocrisy. It is an example of two different styles of play and an extremely different personnel situation. The incidences we're talking about were not when "we ran the offense to precision" but just the opposite. Berry is saying that the style of our offense will always be healthier when we continue to do what we're good at, and it is plausible/probable that points per minute can be spread across a larger group with the same result. We haven't even covered the fact that we also had some greater defensive weaknesses with DK on the court. Hopefully that gap will be closed too.
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You apparently misunderstood, im not arguing over the fact our offense isn’t built by giving the best player the ball in space im simply stating the narrative the offense was a one man show is casual because there are plenty of instances where DK wasn’t the primary scorer…when I say it’s “hypocritical” im responding to the original posters quote, not to you…he used Purdue as an example that our offense was reliant on one player in that game…both teams were reliant on one player so that take was hypocritical. You can’t provide an example and frame it as a negative while also not point out the team that beat us did the exact same thing…

I don’t mind debating you but you need to read the context of every conversation if you are going to take up for another poster…
 
#917
#917
TrippieRedd said:
Mainly talking point guard, but I was wrong about that last season, so I don’t care too much.

I don’t think we get Mack.
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A multi year pg would be a need that fixes more than just next season. But yeah Mack the only one I seen that would be a take and I agree. Don’t see it happening
 
#918
#918
D3Athlete said:
A multi year pg would be a need that fixes more than just next season. But yeah Mack the only one I seen that would be a take and I agree. Don’t see it happening
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The other PG I wouldn’t mind taking a look at would be Myles Rice, was a redshirt freshman at Washington State. He’s a bigger PG like Boswell.

Averaged: 14.8 / 3.1 / 3.8, shooting 43.9%
81% FT and averaged 1.6 steals per game.

But, probably another one that wants immediate playing time.
 
#919
#919
TrippieRedd said:
ZZ
Lanier
Shack
Thomas
Aidoo/Awaka

Not a bad lineup at all
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I wouldn't mind seeing the staff take another player at the three. I know it may upset Mashack and potentially Carr, but you got to have guys that you trust can score the ball. Mashack has to want to provide offense and be able to provide offense. Further, with Mashack's versatility to play multiple positions there are still enough minutes for him, if you do start someone else at three. I just would hate for the team to go through the same things it has gone through the last few years. It seems like every year there is one player who just cannot fill the role the team needs them to fill.
 
#921
#921
berryvol said:
Apparently Dubar is high on staff’s list, haven’t seen him discussed as much in here.
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ZZ
Lanier
Thomas
Dubar
Aidoo/Awaka

Shack 6th man of the year. Lord that would be a loaded roster. Then you have Awaka or Aidoo, Gainey, etc.
 
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#924
#924
There's a few solid PGs, I think Mack is the best option.

Jordan Pope from Oregon State, 6'2" 2 years shot over 42% FG in both seasons and 37% 3PT while scoring 12.6 and then 17.6, also grabbed 2.6 rebounds a game both years and was good for 3.4 apg.

Ty-Laur Johnson from Louisville, 6'0" 3 years was an 8.7 ppg, 3.6 apg guy off the bench in only 23 minutes. Shooting from deep was awful and drug down his FG% but he was a top 125 kid and 4 star out of HS. He also shoots well from the FT line so I think his % would go up in a better coaching situation like we have.

Jamarii Thomas from Norfolk State, 6'0" 1 year was a 16.9 ppg, 3.8 apg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 spg guy and a career 38.7 FG%, 35.7% 3PT, 79% FT (he shot over 40% and 38% this past season though)

Khalil Brantley from La Salle, 6'1" 1 year was a 15 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.5 spg this year who shot 38.7% FG and 32.6% 3PT
 
#925
#925
GoodTimeVol said:
You apparently misunderstood, im not arguing over the fact our offense isn’t built by giving the best player the ball in space im simply stating the narrative the offense was a one man show is casual because there are plenty of instances where DK wasn’t the primary scorer…when I say it’s “hypocritical” im responding to the original posters quote, not to you…he used Purdue as an example that our offense was reliant on one player in that game…both teams were reliant on one player so that take was hypocritical. You can’t provide an example and frame it as a negative while also not point out the team that beat us did the exact same thing…

I don’t mind debating you but you need to read the context of every conversation if you are going to take up for another poster…
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Why isn't there a great swath of support for your side of the argument? My guess is because it is all over the place.

Most simply stated, the original point was that our offense is most effective when there are multiple scoring options. Kencht is awesome, but him being a one-man show while others stand around watching isn't our most effective offense. That isn't a "casual" take. It's common sense. Knecht scored 30+ in eight games this year, and we were 4-4 in those games.

Nothing wrong with admitting that he's awesome and that him going for 30 is exciting to watch and a godsend on those nights when our other players can't throw it in the ocean, but it isn't when we are our most effective, which was the original point that you just seem to want to argue over.

And acknowledging that Purdue running their offense thru Edey isn't analogous at all because of where Edey's shots come from and where Knecht’s shots come from. Throwing the ball to a 7-4 center 3' from the basket is easy money. That well is much less likely to dry up, especially against a team like Tennessee who doesn't have the post personnel to keep up. Purdue intentionally runs thru Edey like that because of the quality of shots and ease with which they get him the ball within 3'. Tennessee incidentally runs the ball thru Knecht because other guys stop hunting shots and he feels the pressure to be the only option when the other four guys become spectators.

All anyone is asking for is that we be a more balanced offense that allows our best scorer to score, but doesn't solely rely on him being the only source of offense so often.
 
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