4-20 de facto Pot observance day

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#180
Weezer said:
You deal with addicts. Not everyone is an addict. Seems like you should be capable of separating the two groups? And addicts can easily get addicted to anything. Drugs, alcohol, gambling, porn....Make an argument that addictive personalities should maybe avoid pot and you might have a point, but acting as if everyone has an addictive personality falls short.
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You are correct that I deal with addicts more often, however the point I was trying to make was that people who are 100% for marijuana usage ONLY take into account the positives (which there are definitely some, especially with gummies i.e. seizures, pain relief for various long term illnesses, etc) without EVER acknowledging that it has negative effects on people as well.

I am not pro or against marijuana being legal, but people who think it's some wonder drug that cures cancer or benefits people in recreational use is simply mistaken, and you can ask 95% of physicians who will say the same thing.
 
#181
#181
McDad said:
I am not a smoker. Have never even tried it. Thought we might like to have a discussion about this country's ridiculous marijuana laws. It is inevitable pot will be legalized or decriminalized in every state eventually. There are a lot of people in jail for growing, selling, and using and more will be added until every state succumbs to the push. It's a waste of government resources to get in the way of a relatively safe drug.
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Go ahead and locate your teenagers stash of buds then fire up a joint. It is a little awkward to have a thread started about ganja from you because you have never been lifted.
 
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#182
#182
Rickyvol77 said:
Post where I work and my personal information? Yea, I definitely would do that for the likes of you :cool:

Do you want my home address too? or just a list of where my kids go to school
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Sorry pal I have no desire to find out where your doublewide is, just would like to see you post a shred of evidence or data that backs up the stance you're taking as a subject matter expert for once.
 
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#184
Rickyvol77 said:
Define recreational usage in your opinion (not arguing, just really want to know your thoughts)
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Hypotheticals....


Group of guys hang out at their house on the deck on a friday night and smoke weed and have a drink while their wives sing karaoke.

Group of friends rent a limo or uber down town to go see bruno Mars or hit a concert or bar hop and each have a few hits

On the beach sitting on the balcony listening to the eagles with your friends

Basically just times you want to relax.

Not while you are watching kids, driving, working, etc.
 
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#185
Rickyvol77 said:
You are correct that I deal with addicts more often, however the point I was trying to make was that people who are 100% for marijuana usage ONLY take into account the positives (which there are definitely some, especially with gummies i.e. seizures, pain relief for various long term illnesses, etc) without EVER acknowledging that it has negative effects on people as well.

I am not pro or against marijuana being legal, but people who think it's some wonder drug that cures cancer or benefits people in recreational use is simply mistaken, and you can ask 95% of physicians who will say the same thing.
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Read my posts. I clearly acknowledged it's not for everyone. Doesn't mean no one should be able to use it though.
 
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#186
Weezer said:
Would it be an issue if it were legal?
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Yep. I think any legalization would need to still permit employers to set their own drug use policy and of course industries regulated by the DOT, NTSB, FAA would still have to be zero tolerance.
 
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#187
Tyler Durden said:
Sorry pal I have no desire to find out where your doublewide is, just would like to see you post a shred of evidence or data that backs up the stance you're taking as a subject matter expert for once.
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My double wide is currently in Choto on the waterfront, I hope they don't kick me out because of my Gremlin that's on bricks in the yard
 
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#189
NEO said:
Hypotheticals....


Group of guys hang out at their house on the deck on a friday night and smoke weed and have a drink while their wives sing karaoke.

Group of friends rent a limo or uber down town to go see bruno Mars or hit a concert or bar hop and each have a few hits

On the beach sitting on the balcony listening to the eagles with your friends

Basically just times you want to relax.

Not while you are watching kids, driving, working, etc.
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No issues with that, just like no issues with someone drinking during those times.
 
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#190
Weezer said:
I had a friend that had to be dropped off at the ER with a severe panic attack. People react different ways.
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Odds are the friend may have side issues the weed brought to the surface.

Just my opinion though.
 
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#191
Rickyvol77 said:
Yes because no legit business would knowingly employ someone high on marijuana for lots of reasons
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Which, if legalization were to occur, means coming up with a testing protocol to determine if someone is actually high at the time. Having pot in your system doesn't mean you're impaired.
 
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NEO said:
Hypotheticals....


Group of guys hang out at their house on the deck on a friday night and smoke weed and have a drink while their wives sing karaoke.

Group of friends rent a limo or uber down town to go see bruno Mars or hit a concert or bar hop and each have a few hits

On the beach sitting on the balcony listening to the eagles with your friends

Basically just times you want to relax.

Not while you are watching kids, driving, working, etc.
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Before you know it, you will be beating your wife after doing a line off the back of a Vietnamese hooker.
 
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Weezer said:
Which, if legalization were to occur, means coming up with a testing protocol to determine if someone is actually high at the time. Having pot in your system doesn't mean you're impaired.
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No but because there is no way to accurately test for it, they will be fired...100% of the time.

You can fire someone for smoking cigarettes as well and that doesn't even affect your motor skills, thinking ability, memory etc
 
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#196
hog88 said:
LOL

You'd be shocked at the number of "legit" businesses that have done away with their drug testing policies. And I'm talking about fortune 500 "legit" businesses.
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Maybe so, but it's not and never will be illegal for companies to test for drugs
 
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Weezer said:
Which, if legalization were to occur, means coming up with a testing protocol to determine if someone is actually high at the time. Having pot in your system doesn't mean you're impaired.
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I wouldn't support legalization if employers were barred from setting their drug use policies to include zero tolerance.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I guess we will trust the gangs and see what happens....in states where drugs were legalized, how is the gang population?
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You are the one opposing freedom. You are the one who needs facts to justify your position, not the guy saying we should be a free society...and that's not even the right question.
 
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