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#401
Fingers said:
Agreed. However, I'm only debating what it states. I'm not sure I've given my interpretation of what it means.
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No need to. It's obvious what it means. It means that Bruce Pearl tried to convince people to lie on his behalf. It's really not a mystery.
 
#402
#402
hatvol96 said:
You can generally gauge the strength of a postion by the intelligence of the people advocating it. If Pearl checked out the mental acuity of his supporters on this board, he'd resign immediately.
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Plenty of people support Pearl. No need to try to lump everyone together. If you truly believe he would resign, I have a feeling you would have attempted to clue him in a long time ago.
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#404
#404
LawVol13 said:
No need to. It's obvious what it means. It means that Bruce Pearl tried to convince people to lie on his behalf. It's really not a mystery.
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Agreed, but Note use of the word "people", not "prospect" or "father".
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#406
#406
Fingers said:
Agreed, but Note use of the word "people", not "prospect" or "father".
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What difference does it make? The people Pearl talked to were recruits and their parents. Those are the mysterious "people" you refer to.
 
#407
#407
LawVol13 said:
And those people's strong points generally don't include intelligence.
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Maybe some, but I'm not willing to generalize to the extent you are. I've heard people on talk radio that weren't the sharpest tools in the shed insist on his termination. To try to lump everyone into an intelligence category based on their support or disapproval of Pearl is silly.
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#409
#409
LawVol13 said:
What difference does it make? The people Pearl talked to were recruits and their parents. Those are the mysterious "people" you refer to.
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If you've read any of my posts in the last few pages of this thread, it makes a big difference when trying to separate fact from speculation.
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#410
#410
Fingers said:
If you've read any of my posts in the last few pages of this thread, it makes a big difference when trying to separate fact from speculation.
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This doesn't even make sense. Pearl himself has admitted to talking to the recruits about the situation.
 
#411
#411
Fingers said:
If you've read any of my posts in the last few pages of this thread, it makes a big difference when trying to separate fact from speculation.
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These people you are trying to reason with are incapable
of give and take dialect. But, it sure is refreshing to find
another poster that speaks the truth and stays with it.
 
#412
#412
LawVol13 said:
This doesn't even make sense. Pearl himself has admitted to talking to the recruits about the situation.
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I really don't want to rehash this entire conversation, but the debate was over Pearl contacting "recruits" and trying to persuade them to lie to the NCAA, and how it was documented in the letter from Mike Hamilton.
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#413
#413
Prior to and after your interview on June 14, you interfered with and failed to protect the integrity of the NCAA’s investigation by calling the father of the prospective student-athlete who had been at your home during an unofficial visit on September 20, 2008. According to you, you called the father in part to “remind” him that you told the parents on Septembet 20, 2008 that it would be a violation of NCAA rules for them to attend the team cookout at your home and that you gave them a choice whether to attend. At the very least, your calls to the father created the appearance that you were trying to influence the father’s statement to the NCAA.
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Taken directly from the letter sent to Pearl. So, as you can see, your position not only makes no sense, but is absolutely wrong.
 
#414
#414
LawVol13 said:
Taken directly from the letter sent to Pearl. So, as you can see, your position not only makes no sense, but is absolutely wrong.
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There again the argument was that he called recruits and told them to lie. The discussion had nothing to do with the father.
 
#415
#415
LawVol13 said:
Taken directly from the letter sent to Pearl. So, as you can see, your position not only makes no sense, but is absolutely wrong.
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You should probably re-read my comments. It has been my stance all along that he contacted the father, not the recruit.
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#417
#417
Fingers said:
You should probably re-read my comments. It has been my stance all along that he contacted the father, not the recruit.
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Yea, I just did where you noted that nowhere was the use of the word "father."
 
#418
#418
LawVol13 said:
Great point.
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LawVol, you are kind of late to the conversation here. I suggest you read back through the thread.

My comment about the word "people" was because you weren't specifying whether it was the father or the prospect. Clearly it was the father, and that has been my stance all along.
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#419
#419
LawVol13 said:
Yea, I just did where you noted that nowhere was the use of the word "father."
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See my post above. Again, it was in the context of previous discussion. It certainly does state that Pearl contacted the father. It does not state that he contacted the prospect.
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#420
#420
LawVol13 said:
Yea, I just did where you noted that nowhere was the use of the word "father."
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And just for clarification, I was noting that you weren't using the word "father", when that would have been more accurate than "people".
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#421
#421
Fingers said:
See my post above. Again, it was in the context of previous discussion. It certainly does state that Pearl contacted the father. It does not state that he contacted the prospect.
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you initiated telephone contact with and discussed the photograph of you and the prospective student athlete taken in your home during an unofficial visit.
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This sure appears to say he contacted the recruit.
 
#423
#423
LawVol13 said:
This sure appears to say he contacted the recruit.
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But knowthevols said he's bringing truth, mentioned a give a take dialect (which must be akin to that spoken in Birmingham, England) and drew some cartoons because he's the only one who can have a conversation. Gonna roll my six year old up in here. He speaks cartoon, but I'll warn that knowledge man might be overmatched.
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#424
#424
LawVol13 said:
This sure appears to say he contacted the recruit.
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Good find LawVol. Although, I find that sentence a bit confusing since the "with" isn't clearly defined. I didn't interpret it that way initially. It may be too "legal" for me.

Regardless, even if that refers to the prospect, it still doesn't state, as fact, that he tried to persuade them to lie to the NCAA as was previously stated, and which has been my point all along. Although, it is easy to speculate about the intent of any conversations, and the NCAA certainly won't look fondly upon such calls.
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#425
#425
I think its fairly reasonable to say pearl contacted the recruits and reminded them they weren't supposed to be there. The fact that he made follow up phone calls to make sure all were on the same page seems like the biggie to me.

Sounds like a secondary violation being self reported would have been the easiest way to go.
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