A Racist Take On Our New Coach

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bamacheats said:
His lead recruiter and position coach was black.
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That's why he attended UT? Good to know.

Then why did he attend a high school that is predominently white. Grissom High, here in Huntsville, is approximately 92-94% white.
 
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trevols81 said:
What did I dodge? For the record this entire thread has set back Volnation 2 years.
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What did you dodge? You can't be that ignorant! Try the post that you quoted. Explain to Grizz that even though he's black and related a nice experience, he's wrong because you know better.

I agree about setting us back, I had no idea there were still white folks who thought that they needed to tell black folks what they believe.
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#356
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bamacheats said:
Address this post. Grizz is an African American and one of the best posters on the entire board. Tell him this experience is nonsense because race doesn't matter.
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Why would I address the post? I don't have any reason to doubt it. Your error, though, is taking a handful of data points and extrapolating them to an entire race while ignoring the bazillions of data points that do not support your position.
 
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I'll let you have this one trevol. You guys dodged this one as well. Explain to Rorban that this is all make believe.

Rorban said:
Felt the need to comment on this having been involved in the AAU circuit and with guys who went on to D1 college programs.

Many Black players only go to a school by being recruited by a Black assistant coach. A vast majority of White coaches simply are unable to socially connect with young Black youth & their families. Hip Hop to Coach K is a condition that requires surgery. This is the case at Duke where Nate James stepped in and recruiting picked up big time for Duke in the past 2 years. Nate is a younger Black man, and he was able to bring in several talented players to Duke. However, Bruce definetly was not that type of White coach. He could handle recruiting kids anywhere regardless of their race. Bruce was a very likable guy when you get to know him. Cuonzo knows all about this having served as the recruiter/watchdog for Purdue for several years. He will definetly have to set an example for the players he brings in here.

Many people wonder why Paul Hewitt and Leonard Hamilton rake in top talent, despite both being average/mediocre coaches. Their race attracted recruit's families in regards to sending their son off for 4 years. With both being the most prominent Black coaches in college basketball, they reaped the benefits of it. In the case of Thaddeus Young, a local Memphis star, this was the deciding factor in his recruitment in which his father wanted him to be coached by a Black man who wouldn't "exploit him". They settled on Georgia Tech where they themselves exploited Paul Hewitt, a trend which Hewitt became used to.

Cuonzo should be wise to avoid being exploited by those types thinking he will be the "Black" Calipari and offer a 1 year adventure before the NBA. I also hope he refrains from recruiting thugs like Pearl did, I do not want to see guys on the floor covered in tattoos.
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bamacheats said:
What did you dodge? You can't be that ignorant! Try the post that you quoted. Explain to Grizz that even though he's black and related a nice experience, he's wrong because you know better.

I agree about setting us back, I had no idea there were still white folks who thought that they needed to tell black folks what they believe.
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For one, I never said Grizz was wrong. For two, one experience for one person does not dictate the way an entire race of people feels about something one way or the other.

Also, please don't make assumptions about someone's race, it makes you look ignorant.
 
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cotton said:
Why would I address the post? I don't have any reason to doubt it. Your error, though, is taking a handful of data points and extrapolating them to an entire race while ignoring the bazillions of data points that do not support your position.
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Still making stuff up. Still waiting on that "whole entire race" example. I've asked and asked and asked and none of you had posted it. And you're still dodging it. Grizz provided an example that there are cases that it matters and you're claiming it doesn't.
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#360
Answer this. If you have two coaching candidates with equal experience and accomplishments and one is white and the other black, who would you hire?
 
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trevols81 said:
For one, I never said Grizz was wrong. For two, one experience for one person does not dictate the way an entire race of people feels about something one way or the other.

Also, please don't make assumptions about someone's race, it makes you look ignorant.
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Still waiting on that "entire race" comment. Let's see some proof. You guys are happy with the accusation but can't seem to provide the necessary evidence.

BTW, what "assumptions" have I made? Taking a black person for their word, but you refute. Who's making the assumptions?
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bamacheats said:
I'll let you have this one trevol. You guys dodged this one as well. Explain to Rorban that this is all make believe.


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That example you just quoted makes Young's father appear to be racist against whites, though he probably has his reasons. Also, when was the last time Duke did not have the top talent committed to the Blue Devils.
 
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GAVol said:
Answer this. If you have two coaching candidates with equal experience and accomplishments and one is white and the other black, who would you hire?
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I don't think that's a plausible argument. How can two guys be that exact? Even if they're both white or both black.
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trevols81 said:
That example you just quoted makes Young's father appear to be racist against whites, though he probably has his reasons. Also, when was the last time Duke did not have the top talent committed to the Blue Devils.
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Ever seen Coach K's coaching staff?
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bamacheats said:
I'm glad to have a black head coach. I think it will pay dividends in the south. With his upbringing and life experience I believe he may win some key recruiting battles. I know race shouldn't matter, but it does. I think when in the living room of a top prospect, possibly talking to a single mother, his story and experience will be more convincing than the $10k Cheatapari is offering.
At the end of the day, I think Bruce was well liked by his players, but I don't think that they had the respect for him that they should for a head coach. Counzo will be both I think.
GBO!
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I'll help you guys out. Here's the OP. Please put into bold my "entire race" comment.
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trevols81 said:
You are the one with the assumption that by having a black coach that will help with black recruits. I think I should be waiting for the evidence.
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I already quoted two examples. Now your turn. You accused me of labeling an entire race, that's offensive, I need the evidence.
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bamacheats said:
Ok. If I'm the AD at BYU, the white guy; Grambling, the black guy.
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OK, you threw a wrench in it, but I agree. I'd give deference to the black coach in most situations and it's not hard to figure out why. I'm having a hard time understanding what the argument is here.
 
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GAVol said:
OK, you threw a wrench in it, but I agree. I'd give deference to the black coach in most situations and it's not hard to figure out why. I'm having a hard time understanding what the argument is here.
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Apparently even though a couple of black athletes said that it can play a factor, a couple of black VN members said that it can be a factor (even providing examples), we are all crazy because we believe that a black athlete somewhere could possibly feel more comfortable with a black head coach due to culture similarities.

Then cotton(what an ironic name), trevol, and raven start throwing around this "you labeled an entire race" accusation (which I'm still waiting on that evidence guys) once they realized that they had no logical rationale, but pride won't allow them to admit it so they've run away.
That's the cliff's notes version.
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