A Racist Take On Our New Coach

#51
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volroadwarrior said:
Wade Houston was here because of his son. Pure and simple. Like Press Maravich coached LSU because of Pete. Bruce Pearl coached at UT because of his....wait a minute.
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No he wasn't. He was here because he had been Denny Crum's right hand man for years and was his chief recruiter during that time. Everyone liked the hire at the time. It seemed like a good fit. Problem was that Wade wasn't a very good game coach. He recruited some great players while at UT, just couldn't coach them.
 
#52
#52
bamacheats said:
Terry Fair said that it still matters. I think his outlook is a bit more realistic than your's or mine.
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I think it is hilarious that the board was pretty unanimous in saying that we needed black assistant coaches for the football team so that they could relate to the players and help recruit but everyone is acting like a black HC in basketball is not a plus.

I do think it needs to be said that players will go where they think is best for them but if all things are equal having a black HC can be a plus.

UT's basketball recruiting base is in an area where racism is still prevalent. Most of the elite white coaches mentioned recruit nationally and are in areas that are not as known for racism. There will always be a segment of people who equate TN, AL, MS with being backwards and racist. If having a black HC helps dispel that notion then how is it a bad thing?
 
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shortgameVol said:
No he wasn't. He was here because he had been Denny Crum's right hand man for years and was his chief recruiter during that time. Everyone liked the hire at the time. It seemed like a good fit. Problem was that Wade wasn't a very good game coach. He recruited some great players while at UT, just couldn't coach them.
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None of that post is true. Wade was a truck driver with a stud recruit for a son.

Kevin Oniell would like to know what great recruits he brought in.
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#54
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MikeeV9 said:
I signed up so that I could be eligible for the amazon gift card :)

I used to live in Knoxville and have lots of friends that are UT fans so yes I like to keep up with what you guys are doing and hopefully can engage in civil conversations with you guys, but I don't go on catpause and bring up Pearl cheating or anything related to you guys. I've silently followed this board for over a year and have been amazed by how much vol fans bring us up in posts that have nothing to do with us.

There's a big difference in being knowledgeable of what another program is doing and going on to my own team's forum and constantly bringing up another team up.

Another funny thing I've noticed from afar...It's amazing how many people worship Hat's posts. I agree with most of the things that he posts, but damn....How'd he become so loved?
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he has pretty eyes.
 
#55
#55
I think that the OP has an interesting Hypothesis. I tried to find out if it was valid and came up empty.

Who are the winningest NCAA Coaches of all time?
9 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 10 years?
10 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 5 years?
10 out of 10 are white males.

Other than "Big House" Gaines from Winston-Salem State I have a hard time understanding how CCM's color is going to help us. It's not that I don't agree with some of his points, The data just doesn't seem to back it up.

Source: College Basketball Coaches - StatSheet.com
 
#56
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if obama's brother in law can't get top-50 recruiting classes i'd say this theory doesn't have a lot of merit.
 
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81Bubbavol said:
I think that the OP has an interesting Hypothesis. I tried to find out if it was valid and came up empty.

Who are the winningest NCAA Coaches of all time?
9 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 10 years?
10 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 5 years?
10 out of 10 are white males.

Other than "Big House" Gaines from Winston-Salem State I have a hard time understanding how CCM's color is going to help us. It's not that I don't agree with some of his points, The data just doesn't seem to back it up.

Source: College Basketball Coaches - StatSheet.com
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Problem with your research. Having a black HC could help land a recruit, not win games. Race is a factor in recruiting, it plays zero part in winning.

I know, the morons will clammer, "yeah, but winning requires good players." No schyt! But coaching and strategy is still the biggest slice of the pie.
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bamacheats said:
Problem with your research. Having a black HC could help land a recruit, not win games. Race is a factor in recruiting, it plays zero part in winning.

I know, the morons will clammer, "yeah, but winning requires good players." No schyt! But coaching and strategy is still the biggest slice of the pie.
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So are you saying white coaches are better then black coaches :eek:hmy:
 
#61
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bamacheats said:
Problem with your research. Having a black HC could help land a recruit, not win games. Race is a factor in recruiting, it plays zero part in winning.

I know, the morons will clammer, "yeah, but winning requires good players." No schyt! But coaching and strategy is still the biggest slice of the pie.
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so your opinion is that black coaches DO recruit better, but they aren't as good at strategy?
 
#63
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81Bubbavol said:
I think that the OP has an interesting Hypothesis. I tried to find out if it was valid and came up empty.

Who are the winningest NCAA Coaches of all time?
9 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 10 years?
10 out of 10 are white males

Who are the winningest NCAA coaches in the last 5 years?
10 out of 10 are white males.

Other than "Big House" Gaines from Winston-Salem State I have a hard time understanding how CCM's color is going to help us. It's not that I don't agree with some of his points, The data just doesn't seem to back it up.

Source: College Basketball Coaches - StatSheet.com
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Sample bias. There are far more white coaches than black.
 
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JZVOL said:
Anyone else craving fried chicken?
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#67
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bamacheats said:
I think Bruce was well liked by his players, but I don't think that they had the respect for him that they should for a head coach.
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no disrespect my friend but what a dumb-butt statement. Is that why players are looking at going to the NBA or wanting to be released from their LOI ?


MTSUDaff said:
Having a black head coach means nothing as far as competitive advantage. I think it's safe to say you can look at the premiere programs in America and a lot of them have white head coaches. Maybe it's because the players don't care if their head coach is black or not? Pointless thread.
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Thank you, NOW THAT'S A GREAT POST ! white, black, tall or short you hire the right man for the job. Is Cuonzo Martin the right man for the job ...... who knows !
 
#68
#68
I dont think Race matters in the least. Coach K is white, Bruce is white Self is white. I for one am happy with the hire, no matter what color he is. He seems to be a great, high character man and i believe he will have alot of success recruiting in the south and at UT. He mat very well be able to bring in better and higher character kids than Pearl did. And not the kind Calipari bring in. Meaning the 1 and done type. kentucky is kentucky in basketball so they are going to get kids no matter whos the coach. i loved Pearl but i think we may be in an eveb better situation now, as far as not lying and cheating.
 
#69
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bamacheats said:
I'm glad to have a black head coach. I think it will pay dividends in the south. With his upbringing and life experience I believe he may win some key recruiting battles. I know race shouldn't matter, but it does. I think when in the living room of a top prospect, possibly talking to a single mother, his story and experience will be more convincing than the $10k Cheatapari is offering.
At the end of the day, I think Bruce was well liked by his players, but I don't think that they had the respect for him that they should for a head coach. Counzo will be both I think.
GBO!
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I don't think your racist. I just think what your saying is wrong. If a coach can recruit he can recruit no matter his color. Martin may not be worth a crap as a recruiter for all we know. Calipari the last time I saw him was not black and he seems to be able to sign anyone he wants.
 
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Flatliner said:
no disrespect my friend but what a dumb-butt statement. Is that why players are looking at going to the NBA or wanting to be released from their LOI ?



Thank you, NOW THAT'S A GREAT POST ! white, black, tall or short you hire the right man for the job. Is Cuonzo Martin the right man for the job ...... who knows !
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That actually was a "dumb-butt" statement. Hopson and Harris were both going to explore NBA with or without Pearl. Recruits are possibly wavering on their LOI due to uncertainty around the program. Happens every time with a coaching change. Has nothing to do with respect for a coach.
 
#71
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Flatliner said:
no disrespect my friend but what a dumb-butt statement. Is that why players are looking at going to the NBA or wanting to be released from their LOI ?
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No offense taken. No disrespect, but I don't get offended by people I don't respect.

Weird huh? Scotty and Tobias had ZERO intentions of testing NBA waters until Bruce left. Recruits reopening recruitment because their coach gets fired. Why does this only happen to us? What a string of bad luck!
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#73
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jerryvol44 said:
I don't think your racist. I just think what your saying is wrong. If a coach can recruit he can recruit no matter his color. Martin may not be worth a crap as a recruiter for all we know. Calipari the last time I saw him was not black and he seems to be able to sign anyone he wants.
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Nice example with Cheatapari. Race doesn't matter when recruits are looking to get paid.
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