Abortion debate (split from bball forum)

#226
#226
rjd970 said:
Thanks for clearing that up.

I am unimpressed because everybody should be. A 99% failure rate isn't exactly something to write home about. It is, however, impressive evidence of randomness at work here.



I don't know. And neither do you. I think it is pretty conclusive, however, that this isn't the work of a prayer answering, miracle-reaking God of everyday conversation.
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What is this 99% failure rate?
 
#227
#227
jerryvol44 said:
No that doesn't work either. It is obviously human from conception. If not it would grow into what ever it is say a dog or a cat or an eggplant.
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Then how do you explain centaurs?

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#236
#236
droski said:
god also said we shouldn't sleep in the same house of our wife if she's having her period. do you follow that?
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You should not mistate facts. God did not tell us not to sleep in the same house as our wives when she is having her period. The law as stated in the old testament only applies to the jews of the old testament because they were/are Gods chosen people i.e. chosen to bless all mankind by being the people who would produce Jesus Christ. In fact I don't believe that even the jews were not to sleep in the same house as their wives, if I remember correctly it says not to uncover her nakedness when she is in her period i.e to have sex with her. I just finishe reading lev again a couple of nights ago and I don't remember the house thing being there.
 
#237
#237
Exactly!

Thats why its mixing the two beliefs. You have been passing it off as if its in the Bible so its a failure. Its not in the Bible so its not a failure.

This was in response to post 232 from therealUT. Forgot to quote it.
 
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#240
#240
jerryvol44 said:
You should not mistate facts. God did not tell us not to sleep in the same house as our wives when she is having her period. The law as stated in the old testament only applies to the jews of the old testament because they were/are Gods chosen people i.e. chosen to bless all mankind by being the people who would produce Jesus Christ. In fact I don't believe that even the jews were not to sleep in the same house as their wives, if I remember correctly it says not to uncover her nakedness when she is in her period i.e to have sex with her. I just finishe reading lev again a couple of nights ago and I don't remember the house thing being there.
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"Facts". Not sure that word means what you think it means.
 
#241
#241
rjd970 said:
That is the problem here.

He also personally killed all the first borns of Egypt. What is that supposed to tell us?
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It tells us He is God. He created all the first born of Egypt and he destroyed all the first born of Egypt. Not only that he hardened Pharaohs heart so that he would not obey Gods command through Moses to release the Isrealites. In order to demonstrate to the Isr that He is God.
 
#242
#242
jerryvol44 said:
It tells us He is God. He created all the first born of Egypt and he destroyed all the first born of Egypt. Not only that he hardened Pharaohs heart so that he would not obey Gods command through Moses to release the Isrealites. In order to demonstrate to the Isr that He is God.
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I don't believe in this god of yours; however, I love the precedent your argument is setting.

Pregnant woman: created the fetus inside of her, so she can destroy the fetus inside of her.

I do love your logic.
 
#244
#244
jerryvol44 said:
In order to demonstrate to the Isr that He is God.
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Would it have been possible for this all-powerful god to have just appeared amongst the clouds and shouted at the Israelites that he is god? You don't think that would have been an attention-getting demonstration?

Of course, it would not have packed all the wrath and destruction that killing infants did...
 
#249
#249
therealUT said:
Then how do you explain centaurs?

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This was how the Greeks depicted the first mounted warriors from the steppes of Russia that they met on the field of battle.

You will go to great lengths to steer threads to your anti-Christian views, will you not?
 
#250
#250
therealUT said:
Grammatically, this does not make sense. Basically, you have made the following statement:

"I believe this through belief."

It is a nonsensical statement. It means nothing.
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As are yours, yet we have given many reasons for ours. You have offered no explaination.
 
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