Abortions Rights Win (Again)

[hUTch2002]

Pithy..

I pithy the fool.

 

[OHvol40]

This is taking the central question of the debate out of the equation.

Actually the central question is if the government should be making this decision FOR their constituents, and so far Americans have given the answer… a resounding NO.

 

[OHvol40]

So just to be clear you see any limit on abortions as invalid because you’d be forcing your beliefs on others? So 39 weeks, as the kids crowning, ice pick to the back of the head?

Or can we both agree there should be a line?

I think you’re welcome to place whatever limits you think apply, and practice those limits in your own lived experience. Leave everyone else to set their own limits. Do you think the government needs to be making these decisions for us? I don’t.

Also, don’t use ridiculous examples, no regular person wants to advocate for unfettered full-term abortions.

 

[85SugarVol]

Actually the central question is if the government should be making this decision FOR their constituents, and so far Americans have given the answer… a resounding NO.

I agree.

Should the government be making decisions about the bodies of other Americans?

 

[Vol8188]

I think you’re welcome to place whatever limits you think apply, and practice those limits in your own lived experience. Leave everyone else to set their own limits. Do you think the government needs to be making these decisions for us? I don’t.

Also, don’t use ridiculous examples, no regular person wants to advocate for unfettered full-term abortions.

Yet non regular humans exist and do horrific things. So you support 0 limits on abortion? 41 weeks gestation, water broke, go ahead and kill it?

Laws aren’t designed to prevent only action from “regular people”.

 

[OHvol40]

Yet non regular humans exist and do horrific things. So you support 0 limits on abortion? 41 weeks gestation, water broke, go ahead and kill it?

Laws aren’t designed to prevent only action from “regular people”.

The ole shock jock routine. If you need to resort to nut-picking to explain your stance, maybe it’s not a stance worth explaining.

 

[lawgator1]

Please, be my guest.

Tim Scott. Right now on TV advocating for a national law.

 

[lawgator1]

Haley says sheds support it if it would pass Congress. So that's another one.

 

[lawgator1]

Vivek says he'd sign a national law, too. That's three.

So much for state's rights.

 

[lawgator1]

Christie saying exactly my point.

The right claimed it was states rights.

Now abandoning that and advocating AGAINST states rights.

 

[C-south]

Vivek says he'd sign a national law, too. That's three.

So much for state's rights.

Then states that want their own laws can ignore a federal law like some states do with enforcing drug laws.

 

[hog88]

Tim Scott. Right now on TV advocating for a national law.

Well then he’s lost the opportunity for my vote. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[CobbVol]

It's about the government not being able to tell a woman what she can or can't do to her body. Should we require all males to have a vasectomy at 16 and then have it reversed when they are financially stable and ready to raise a kid?

 

[BeardedVol]

I am familiar with jurisdiction.
You have assigned a debate position to me I did not assert.

The fed needs to be involved because citizens of states where it is prohibited or restricted are traveling to where it is legal or decriminalized?

Attempting to criminalize movement between states for legal purposes, already involves the Federal government since it would violate freedom of movement under the privileges and immunities clause which has long been established by the Supreme Court as fundamental right.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It's about the government not being able to tell a woman what she can or can't do to her body. Should we require all males to have a vasectomy at 16 and then have it reversed when they are financially stable and ready to raise a kid?

So if a woman just up and decides she doesn’t want to be a mom at say 30 weeks, she should be able to abort no questions asked without any repercussions?

 

[creekdipper]

I'm not sure that since slavery you could be considered a "person" in one state and "property of another" in the next.

Try to look at it from the perspective of the person being treated like a "thing" in one state and having the right to be protected from someone else making the choice for them to die in another.

Yeah...if you don't believe in slavery, don't own one.

 

[creekdipper]

So if a woman just up and decides she doesn’t want to be a mom at say 30 weeks, she should be able to abort no questions asked without any repercussions?

The mantra is "my body, my choice."

Pro-abortionists who use that line obviously mean abortion should be legal for any reason as long as any part of the "thing" remains inside the birthing person's body.

 

[Orangeburst]

It may not be politically popular, but if one feels that abortion is murder, of course you would want it outlawed in our nation just as any murder.

 

[creekdipper]

They have realized abortion is murder is a losing position.

I would guess most people who say "abortion is murder" don't actually believe that when you ask the right questions. Who is willing to hand out a life sentence to an 18 YO girl who had an abortion at 6 weeks?

Who is willing to hand out a life sentence to an 18-year-old girl who kills a six-week-old infant?

 

[creekdipper]

The state has no duty to protect.

What?????

 

[creekdipper]

Your vision of America is terrifying.

I’m grateful the Founders favored freedom. And weren’t unhinged crazy people.

The founders certainly "favored freedom" for all the slaves they owned (and impregnated).

 

[AM64]

Those aren’t term limits

Periodic elections absolutely are term limits IF voters use elections wisely. Problem is not everybody can agree when the elected garbage begins to stink.

 

[AM64]

If my agency over myself encroaches on another it is no longer agency over myself. It is now spilled over and requires consent.

Are you talking about being two plane seats wide and buying a single ticket?

 

[AM64]

I pithy the fool.

Converting fools to plant material is a noble cause. We could begin with 81M or so.

 

[creekdipper]

You keep trying to equate this to the issue of slavery. That is an apples and oranges comparison. The 13th, 14th, & 15th amendments (known as the reconstruction amendments) codified the rights of all citizens. The unborn are not citizens according to the constitution. It is not a comparison that one can make.

Can you please cite any passages from the Constitution which say the unborn are not citizens as you allege it says?