ACC Championship Game: #4 FSU vs #14 Louisville (8PM EST, ABC)

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Vol8188 said:
That's dumb criteria. It would be like leaving the undefeated Vikings out of the playoffs if Randy Moss went down.

If they win, they should 100% be in.
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From the CFP Committe guidelines, loss of key players/coaches will be considered

"Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance."
 
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volfan102455 said:
The problem is, they didn't do that last year even after saying that and pointed out conference championships do matter.

I would love for them to list the criteria they use to rank the best teams. BEST is a subjective word. I think if we all defined the criteria for BEST we would define it very different.
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It changes from year to year.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
From the CFP Committe guidelines, loss of key players/coaches will be considered

"Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance."
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Those are horrible guidelines and more proof the CFP committee is trash.
 
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Even the FSU DB got up looking for/expecting the flag on that 2nd down play and the refs act like they saw nothing.
 
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Yes,this game could very well cure insomnia, but even if FSU wins 10-7,they should be in.Keeping an undefeated team out wouldn't look right even though this team wouldn't bring the entertainment factor. You have to keep some semblance of it being a sport over entertainment.
 
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loservol said:
It changes from year to year.
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This is why next year with 12 it should be clear - conference championship required for one of the bye spots + all conference champs of power 5 conferences are in along with top conference champ from the other conferences. And in reality, that should include the other team that plays in the conference championship game. If all conferences do like the SEC, then the teams that play in the championship game should also be one of the top 12 teams.

I believe there will be 4 power conferences next year, that is 8 automatic teams + the top of the other. That leaves them 3 to debate on. I know many don't want that, because it would limit the number of teams from a conference - but it is objective and not a bunch of folks in a room making up criteria as the year proceeds.
 
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Pennheel said:
Yes,this game could very well cure insomnia, but even if FSU wins 10-7,they should be in.Keeping an undefeated team out wouldn't look right even though this team wouldn't bring the entertainment factor. You have to keep some semblance of it being a sport over entertainment.
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Another thing that is going to hurt FSU's playoff hopes, is the fact that Louisville ended the season with a loss to a mediocre Kentucky team.
 
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Michigan is only leading Iowa 10-0. It looks to be a defense struggle as well. UM has 120 total yards, Iowa has 61, almost half time.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The problem is that they have NEVER defined the criteria for BEST.
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I agree, and I’m not even saying I’m in favor of leaving FSU out. I’ve just been surprised by the amount of people this week who thought that FSU was a mortal lock to make the playoffs if they finished unbeaten.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Why? The mission of the committee, since the playoff started, is to select the four best teams.
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Then why even have the committee? Just let Vegas tell you who they would favor and take the top four.

The goal should not be "four best teams" but rather the "four best resumes". Which I think is what most people assumed they meant when agreeing to this system.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The problem is that they have NEVER defined the criteria for BEST.
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The committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:

Conference championships won,

Strength of schedule,

Head‐to‐head competition,

Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incentivizing margin of victory), and,

Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
 
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Michigan and Iowa have 9 first downs between them- this game the teams have 11. lol

Michigan is failing the eye test as well.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I saw that. He should be immediately forced to step down.
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I wouldn’t agree with that. The playoff committee is subjective. You can frame it around games, strength of schedule, ect. But it’s still all opinion based. He’s just making their consideration known.

Maybe they want to avoid selecting a team that loses 65-7 again. A deserving team last year looked pathetic.

Me personally, if FSU wins I’d put them in probably. But I also wouldn’t consider them one of the best 4 teams either without Jordan Travis.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I wouldn’t agree with that. The playoff committee is subjective. You can frame it around games, strength of schedule, ect. But it’s still all opinion based. He’s just making their consideration known.

Maybe they want to avoid selecting a team that loses 65-7 again. A deserving team last year looked pathetic.

Me personally, if FSU wins I’d put them in probably. But I also wouldn’t consider them one of the best 4 teams either without Jordan Travis.
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If they're going to leave out undefeated teams from major conferences, they should immediately all be replaced by either the BCS or if you really want the "best teams" (I don't) just let Vegas odds makers select the field.

If you're picking the "best teams", Bama could've lost to Auburn and beat Georgia and everyone on the planet knows that a 2 loss Bama team is still better than FSU. But better and deserving aren't the same thing.

We should be picking the 4 teams that have the best resumes, period.
 
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