ACC Championship Game: #4 FSU vs #14 Louisville (8PM EST, ABC)

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Teams want in the B1G and SEC because of massive media deals.

Those deals exist because the quality of the football is generally better, the markets are stronger for football, and the games draw more eyeballs.

Few people wanted to watch the PAC and they actually couldn't get a TV deal worth having so the conference members skipped out to more lucrative conferences. The SEC and B1G choose their new members based upon potential revenue.

The bottom line: ALL the college games are designed to generate revenue, not purely for sports or regional rivalry or whatever existed in the 50s. It's about revenue.

Expecting the CFP committee to NOT consider revenue generation for the games when EVERYTHING else in college football is revenue based is naive.

They should do what is good for college football and choose the playoff teams that will generate the best games and most revenue. It's a business, a pro sports business.
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Some areas of the country are just more aligned with college football than others. That doesn't mean that the football teams in areas where folks are not as interested may not be the BEST teams. This is like saying the team and conferences can BUY their way into the playoff.
 
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Vol8188 said:
It seems you’re agreeing “best” isn’t the goal but rather “best resume”. If you’re saying 3 is too many.

What about 10-2 Bama? If they didn’t get that 4th and 31 but everything else played out the same. They wouldn’t be any worse of a team. They would still be better than FSU. But I think we’d agree they still shouldn’t be in
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I’m not making a personal argument based on my beliefs. I already said earlier that if FSU wins I’d put them in the playoff personally even though I don’t consider them one of the 4 best.

I’m just talking about the what the playoff committee head has publicly said and how that may affect this years playoff.

4 best or 4 best resume isn’t a massive deal to me. Too much opinion to have clear choices. 12 team playoff will be far superior imo. You’re getting whoever is truly deserving so the “best” debate is moot. You might be adding a couple teams that really don’t deserve to be there but I view that like wild cards. If you win out the playoffs you’ve earned it.
 
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Vol8188 said:
It seems you’re agreeing “best” isn’t the goal but rather “best resume”. If you’re saying 3 is too many.

What about 10-2 Bama? If they didn’t get that 4th and 31 but everything else played out the same. They wouldn’t be any worse of a team. They would still be better than FSU. But I think we’d agree they still shouldn’t be in
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The idea is for the games to be interesting and entertaining. We're talking about the criteria because the current games are snoozers I'd just as soon watch in the background.

The PAC and SEC games were actually good, fun football to watch. The B1G and ACC, not so much.

In the end, the CFP needs to appeal to viewers and advertisers. I'm LESS likely to want to watch FSU than....... KY or MS State, possibly even ETSU.

That's not good for the CFP in the long run. Stop thinking this is more than it is: entertainment. It needs to sell.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Some areas of the country are just more aligned with college football than others. That doesn't mean that the football teams in areas where folks are not as interested may not be the BEST teams. This is like saying the team and conferences can BUY their way into the playoff.
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The games have to sell or the CFP won't be televised. Try to understand that it's not 1950s football but a large, very large, very lucrative sports league that needs to put on good games so the revenue is high.

It's not as altruistic as you want to believe it should be.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Fortunately the NFL is not selection committee based. The onfield results are the only thing that matters. Not a few subjective opinions.
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…which would be them going 12-0 in a power 5 conference… in a year where there were less than 5 12-0 teams.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The idea is for the games to be interesting and entertaining. We're talking about the criteria because the current games are snoozers I'd just as soon watch in the background.

The PAC and SEC games were actually good, fun football to watch. The B1G and ACC, not so much.

In the end, the CFP needs to appeal to viewers and advertisers. I'm LESS likely to want to watch FSU than....... KY or MS State, possibly even ETSU.

That's not good for the CFP in the long run. Stop thinking this is more than it is: entertainment. It needs to sell.
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I’m wondering if last years 65-7 blowout might have caused the committee to shuffle some weight around in their considering factors when making their rankings.

At the same time they did put FSU number 4 this week even though Travis is out. Maybe Hancock is just having fun with everyone.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The idea is for the games to be interesting and entertaining. We're talking about the criteria because the current games are snoozers I'd just as soon watch in the background.

The PAC and SEC games were actually good, fun football to watch. The B1G and ACC, not so much.

In the end, the CFP needs to appeal to viewers and advertisers. I'm LESS likely to want to watch FSU than....... KY or MS State, possibly even ETSU.

That's not good for the CFP in the long run. Stop thinking this is more than it is: entertainment. It needs to sell.
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You're literally in a thread about an FSU game while attempting to lie and claim you care about it less than an ETSU team that you've probably not seen play this season.

FSU is a major program that will "sell", but even if they weren't, it would "sell" because people love watching underdogs. For example the TCU team we all expected to get blown out who then later got blown out, played in both the 2nd and 3rd most watched game of the post season.

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volfan102455 said:
Some areas of the country are just more aligned with college football than others. That doesn't mean that the football teams in areas where folks are not as interested may not be the BEST teams. This is like saying the team and conferences can BUY their way into the playoff.
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Why exactly do you think there have been VERY few different champions for the last several years? Most of those have been SEC teams and B1G teams...... and oddly, which conferences do generate the most money and spend the most on facilities, coaches, etc.

So, your idea about buying their way into the playoffs has shown to be true for the last several years. Spending lots of money on football, coaches, facilities, etc tends to generate good teams.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You're literally in a thread about an FSU game while attempting to lie and claim you care about it less than an ETSU team that you've probably not seen play this season.

FSU is a major program that will "sell", but even if they weren't, it would "sell" because people love watching underdogs. For example the TCU team we all expected to get blown out who then later got blown out, played in both the 2nd and 3rd most watched game of the post season.

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TCU was a complete outlier from the norm and I'm sure you recall people saying they'd not have a chance. They DID win a 1-in-a-100 game over Michigan.

GA beat them like a high school team.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The games have to sell or the CFP won't be televised. Try to understand that it's not 1950s football but a large, very large, very lucrative sports league that needs to put on good games so the revenue is high.

It's not as altruistic as you want to believe it should be.
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The CFP is like the Super Bowl, probably a lot of casual football fans that will turn in once a year. They are NOT like us who may watch and keep track of how other teams are doing. I did not watch the games last year. I was driving back from the Orange Bowl when the semifinals were being played and my attention had already turned to basketball when the championship game was played so I did not watch that either.

Yet I do watch a lot of football during the season. I believe for the most part, most of the folks that watch are fans of the teams that are playing. There are then casual fans who may or may not watch. To me the matches that are between two teams that have never played are more exciting than the repeats from the regular season. I don't get enthused with the same old teams each year.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Michigan and Iowa have 9 first downs between them- this game the teams have 11. lol

Michigan is failing the eye test as well.
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It’s the #1 and #4 scoring defenses in college football playing each other in the same game…it was highly unlikely that it would become a shootout.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I’m wondering if last years 65-7 blowout might have caused the committee to shuffle some weight around in their considering factors when making their rankings.

At the same time they did put FSU number 4 this week even though Travis is out. Maybe Hancock is just having fun with everyone.
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Care to envision what Michigan or Texas might do to FSU?

I don't think it will be TCU bad but it won't be pretty.
 
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