Active Shooter Killed At Nashville School

[volfanhill]

Did I get too drunk and stumble into a child rearing thread?

Well how many have you had?

 

[Orangeburst]

I have been wondering about this. The school must have done something extraordinary to keep the children safe.

I have also wondered if those children who were murdered were ones who happened to be outside of the classrooms at the time (bathroom, office, etc.)

Watching the police go thru the building and no one around impressed upon me that the children were herded and secured (as much as possible).

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Well how many have you had?

Kids?

None that I've acknowledged.

 

[825VOL]

What AR Has The Fastest Fire Rate?
Most modern rifles have a fire rate of about 300 rounds per minute (RPM). This means that, in one minute, you will shoot 300 rounds from your firearm.

The AR-15 is the most popular rifle worldwide and it can easily fire as many as 800 – 1200 RPM depending on the version of the gun, caliber, and trigger.

In contrast with the AR-15, AK-47 rifles have an average fire rate of about 700 RPM. The AK-47 is also a popular rifle used by militaries and law enforcement around the world

The AR-10 is a semi-automatic rifle that is similar to the AR-15. It has a lower rate of fire, which means you can expect it to shoot at around 330 RPM. The AR-308 is another recent semi-automatic rifle similar to the AR-15 and it has an average rate of fire of about 450 RPM.

Let me try to explain this so that even Luther can understand it.

If you managed to find a way to feed the 800-1200 rounds in the gun within a minute, you would still have to alter the gun to make it fully automatic. Even then, this is a stretch. This is theoretically possible but not possible in reality.

Claiming the above numbers is the same as saying men should be able to run a mile within 2:40 time frame. Usain Bolt can run 100m in less than 10 seconds. So 100m X 16 equals a mile. So theoretically he should be able to run a mile in less than 2 mins and 40 seconds. You and everyone else knows that is impossible. But when it does happen, please let me know. Until then the numbers you posted are just theoretical at best and have no place in a real discussion.

 

[luthervol]

Well..... I also believe that law abiding citizens should be able to own full auto firearms as well without having to get a stamp from the ATF. The firearms act of 1933 was unconstitutional. Back then you could have cannons too.....you can still have a cannon, minus explosive rounds. It's just a big muzzle loader. Ironically, in most states you can legally purchase a military grade flame thrower, one of the most gruesome and destructive hand held weapons ever designed. A good one is about 1500 bucks.

And I'm glad criminals can't easily get their hands on full auto firearms.
(which would be the case if law abiding citizens could own them)

 

[Orangeburst]

This was yesterday. Notice anything?

 

[norrislakevol]

So "arms" means guns and not weapons?

Check this out:

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[C-south]

And I'm glad criminals can't easily get their hands on full auto firearms.
(which would be the case if law abiding citizens could own them)

They can own them. You don’t have clue about anything.

 

[Orangeburst]

My old RM-125 would do about 11,000 rpm

 

[Orangeburst]

Check this out:

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Sweet fancy Moses

 

[luthervol]

Tell me the difference…..that you obviously made up.

I think an anti-aircraft missile would be a weapon, not a gun.
I think a land mine is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a grenade is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a nuclear warhead is a weapon but not a gun.

 

[norrislakevol]

And I'm glad criminals can't easily get their hands on full auto firearms.
(which would be the case if law abiding citizens could own them)

They can. In fact, gun shot sound detectors have noticed double and triple the amount of full auto fire in major cities over the last few years. In reality, I don't think that full auto firearms in a lot of cases would make a noticeable difference in crimes and such as far as fatalities go. You'd burn through your ammo too quick.

 

[Vol8188]

This was yesterday. Notice anything?

An insane headline

 

[volfanhill]

Kids?

None that I've acknowledged.

Ha! Perfect

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Before kids my wife and I traveled all over and lived in several awesome cities with our cool urban lifestyle. That came to an abrupt end when we had kids. I remember those carefree and fun times before kids fondly, but being a boring old parent is very gratifying and I can't even imagine living a life without my family now.

That's fine.

I guess I'm just not sated enough with my travels to even consider it.

 

[C-south]

I think an anti-aircraft missile would be a weapon, not a gun.
I think a land mine is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a grenade is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a nuclear warhead is a weapon but not a gun.

A gun is a weapon.

 

[luthervol]

Lol every time you mock a slippery slope argument I’m going to remind you of your “if we can ban anti aircraft missiles we can ban anything” argument

You can remind me of that all you wish even though it is not a point I ever attempted to make.

I'll remind you of your 2A protects all weapons.....but it doesn't protect anti aircraft missiles, or fully automatic ARs.....but it protects everything else dammit.....except maybe......but it protects everything....other than.....
Nonsense
Maybe it's just you who cannot navigate a wet hill.

 

[norrislakevol]

I think an anti-aircraft missile would be a weapon, not a gun.
I think a land mine is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a grenade is a weapon but not a gun.
I think a nuclear warhead is a weapon but not a gun.

Swords and maces are weapons too, and if wielded by the right person can cause horrific damage to multiple people.

 

[Wireless1]

I have not seen any detail, but were the 3 children in the same class room as the substitute teacher? As a sub was she not as versed in the Active Shooter protocol?This could be inappropriate question and if so be kind and I'll delete.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Trans Anti-Christian Video Game Attacking ‘Gender-Critical Tyrants’ Released Months Before School Attack

A video game featuring a transgender hero who shoots down trans critics — including priests — in order to allow players to “unleash [their] pent-up fury upon the gender-critical tyrants with an arsenal of deadly weapons” was published by a trans game developer two months before Monday’s Christian school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee.

Trans Anti-Christian Video Game Released 2 Months Before School Attack

 

[Vol8188]

You can remind me of that all you wish even though it is not a point I ever attempted to make.

I'll remind you of your 2A protects all weapons.....but it doesn't protect anti aircraft missiles, or fully automatic ARs.....but it protects everything else dammit.....except maybe......but it protects everything....other than.....
Nonsense
Maybe it's just you who cannot navigate a wet hill.

You’re 100% making a slippery slope argument. “Because you’ve given us this much power, there’s no reason we can’t take more”

You’re attempting to proclaim the ability to ban one weapon is a valid excuse to ban any/all weapons.

Then you wonder why we won’t agree to your “reasonable reforms”. Because we understand the more we give, the more you take.

 

[Orangeburst]

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[Vol8188]

I have not seen any detail, but were the 3 children in the same class room as the substitute teacher? As a sub was she not as versed in the Active Shooter protocol?This could be inappropriate question and if so be kind and I'll delete.

It’s a valid question and possible. The complete opposite is possible too, that it had nothing to do with protocol, but rather bravery. Idk.

I can say during my brief time subbing (while on terminal leave before I got my first teaching job), we did have to do a training course that covered local protocols for fire, natural disaster, lockdown, etc. But you’re still doing that training less frequently than the typical teacher.

Either way what you’re asking is a fair question

 

[luthervol]

Swords and maces are weapons too, and if wielded by the right person can cause horrific damage to multiple people.

100% agree. I'm just asking what is currently believed to be protected by 2A.

 

[luthervol]

You’re 100% making a slippery slope argument. “Because you’ve given us this much power, there’s no reason we can’t take more”

You’re attempting to proclaim the ability to ban one weapon is a valid excuse to ban any/all weapons.

Then you wonder why we won’t agree to your “reasonable reforms”. Because we understand the more we give, the more you take.

That's the complete reverse of what is happening. You guys claim, you can't ban anything, it's all protected.....which is obviously BS. Just have an open and honest discussion.