Active Shooter Killed At Nashville School

[Vol8188]

They knew she was mentally unstable, they knew she was buying guns. The last 15 years this situation has happened way too often and these things come up time and time again.

Receiving mental health care is a broad term that doesn’t imply “mentally unstable.” That’s why I said we need more information.

 

[TheDeeble]

I like to pile on Joe as much as the next guy, but this seems like he was there to address a group of people who were scheduled to visit the White House. I don't think that was intended to be a press briefing about the shooting. Somebody on Biden's staff dropped the ball when they informed the press that he would be "giving a statement" about the shooting.

Definitely. Someone expecting Joe to react to a change in plan should know better. I didn't think it was going to be a full briefing. but I didn't realize it was a group of visitors for some other planned event.

I think it's another example of his mental degradation. Had this been Bush, Obama, or even Trump I think they would have been aware enough to make a standalone statement at the start if that's what was asked. Or they would have said, no, let me get through this scheduled group and we'll do a statement proper right afterward.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Why would it not matter

Changing the chemical imbalance in her brain taking hormones, should alone be enough to disqualify her from purchasing a gun. Not forever but long enough to prove she is mentally stable.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Why? She didn't do anything illegal (up until the shooting obviously). Maybe if TN had red flag laws a person with a diagnosed emotional disorder and under psychiatrist care wouldn't be able to legally purchase 7 guns in a short amount of time.

If she was being treated for a mental illness she lied on the forms. i.e., a felony.

 

[Jxn Vol]

No, this goes to they are stupid on the subject. Ignorance can be fixed, stupid can't be changed.

Fair point

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Then why do you support increasing government power/control if we agree the psychopaths in charge do not care about you nor will they

I am not for banning guns. I am for enforcement of existing laws, getting guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and increasing treatment for the mentally ill.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

If she was being treated for a mental illness she lied on the forms. i.e., a felony.

Which is why everyone being treated for mental illness should be reported. It shouldn't be something that disqualifies someone from a job, but it should disqualify people from purchasing a weapon.

 

[Orangeburst]

They are going to want owners to have to complete a psychiatric evaluation. The slippery slope

https://www.onlinetherapy.com/half-of-america-wants-mental-health-test-required-for-gun-ownership/

https://www.nappp.org/pdf/guns.pdf

Democratic bill would force all gun owners to go through 'psychological evaluations' along with family members


I could imagine what questions would be asked. Our own DOJ and FBI has been politically compromised.
The Hell with them. You want to change the law..submit an Amendment.

 

[utvolpj]

They knew she was mentally unstable, they knew she was buying guns. The last 15 years this situation has happened way too often and these things come up time and time again.

Is that illegal?

 

[volinbham]

Which is why everyone being treated for mental illness should be reported. It shouldn't be something that disqualifies someone from a job, but it should disqualify people from purchasing a weapon.

any mental illness?

 

[82_VOL_83]

They knew she was mentally unstable, they knew she was buying guns. The last 15 years this situation has happened way too often and these things come up time and time again.

I agree, but she was an adult and purchased the guns on her own. They could be named in a civil suit though and basically wiped out. LG would at least clean them out and then some.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

any mental illness?

Yes.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Is that illegal?

Nope, just a lot of red flags.

 

[LadyVolette]

She lied and mental health is covered under HIPPA so it's not reported to NICS. Although I think involuntary commitments are supposed to be reported to NICS.

I doubt they are

 

[GroverCleveland]

Yea, was reading more about that on another site. Apparently, speed of bullet is faster, size is smaller, and damage to body can be gruesome?

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself and don't know it.

 

[TheDeeble]

Receiving mental health care is a broad term that doesn’t imply “mentally unstable.” That’s why I said we need more information.

Yea, I'm very against a broad definition of "receiving mental care". Too vague and potentially some all encompassing term gun grabbers want to lump anyone into who's ever talked to a psychologist or taken an anti-depressant.

 

[screenthis]

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself and don't know it.

Nah, but apparently the source where I read that should now be embarrassed (along with the quoted Texas Ranger and Surgeon).

 

[utvolpj]

Nope, just a lot of red flags.

So you'd want to charge someone with murder when they did nothing illegal?

 

[volinbham]

so am I reading this thread correctly - the shooter used 9mm carbine weapons along with a handgun rather than an AR platform (.223/5.56)?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Yea, I'm very against a broad definition of "receiving mental care". Too vague and potentially some all encompassing term gun grabbers want to lump anyone into who's ever talked to a psychologist or taken an anti-depressant.

Before both of my knee replacements and my hip replacement I was proscribed an anti-psychotic to help with nervousness. I actually accepted the script the first time and then had them note in my files that I refused the script the other two.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

so am I reading this thread correctly - the shooter used 9mm carbine weapons along with a handgun rather than an AR platform (.223/5.56)?

Yes, which is the point of a lot of people. A good enough shooter can do just as much if not more damage with with handgun then an AR

 

[Orangeburst]

Imagine our own nutcase leaders setting mental health standards and applied by Physicians that agree with mutilating children or ripping them out of the womb.
That should scare the hell out of anyone.

 

[screenthis]

1. You might want to do a little research on defensive handgun ammo/hollow points

2. The shooter was using a 9mm (pistol caliber) carbine

My understanding was that the killer had three different guns. No?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So you'd want to charge someone with murder when they did nothing illegal?

To me it's no different then the Oxford shooters parents.

 

[Vol8188]

Changing the chemical imbalance in her brain taking hormones, should alone be enough to disqualify her from purchasing a gun. Not forever but long enough to prove she is mentally stable.

Here’s my problem. You’re taking a very broad statement “she had mental health issues”. Okay. And you’re attempting to paint a false picture with that.

It would be like someone saying you shouldn’t have a gun because “you have a criminal record”. To answer if you should be able to have a gun, we need to know more than that phrase. Is your criminal history a parking ticket and a seatbelt violation or did you stalk your ex and assault her new man.