Ainge DUI

#476
#476
Vol8188 said:
That's fine. I would agree then that the amount of marijuana required, should be enough to prove that you were under the influence at that time. As opposed to the current limit of 0. But that doesn't mean we should get rid of blood testing.
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I have no issue with blood testing. It's way better than urine bc it shows how things are directly affecting the person at the time, except for pot, IMO.

I think all employers should use swab/blood testing. It more accurately depicts the persons current state. I also don't drink and drive ever. I used to when I was young, but there's no way now.
 
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#477
#477
Vol8188 said:
Because you want to live in a world were we can drive in reverse down the turning lane, but as long as we don't kill anyone....it's cool.

I can't argue with that insanity.
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It's not the point. It apparently went over your head.
 
#480
#480
Tennessee only forced BAC on habitual DUI offenders and when there was an accident with serious injuries or death

The Supreme Court has since put an end to that nonsense

I never agreed with that particular law because it violated the 4th Amendment IMO

As far as refusing a BAC, its up to you. I have not had BAC and still won cases based on video. Video is just as good as BAC in getting a conviction

If you refuse, you still face being charged with Violation of the Implied Consent Law which is hard to fight if you refuse. Lose of license for a year, no question

See, when you sign to get your drivers license, you agree to consent to any and all tests to determine your BAC if warranted by Law Enforcement.

The more you learn
 
#481
#481
Obsessed said:
Because with out evidence it can't be proved. Ill take the lessor of two evils if you will.

Can't convict me of being drunk with no evidence
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there is the cops testimony, the video of you driving, your refusal to take any tests. you'd better get a lawyer if this ever happens, b/c if you spit this kind of sh*t out in court and I was on jury, id vote to convict you in a heartbeat.
 
#483
#483
Vol8188 said:
You're not drawing me back in...I'm done here.
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Your argument is that of a violation of rights. I don't concede to them. Period.

You on the other hand have no issue giving them up.





Look I don't condone his actions, my argument has always been to not pass judgment until all the facts are avaiable.

Some of you are chomping at the bit to convict someone off of a tweet.
 
#484
#484
ScreaminVolHawkins said:
there is the cops testimony, the video of you driving, your refusal to take any tests. you'd better get a lawyer if this ever happens, b/c if you spit this kind of sh*t out in court and I was on jury, id vote to convict you in a heartbeat.
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Agreed.
 
#485
#485
Jake Tate said:
I have no issue with blood testing. It's way better than urine bc it shows how things are directly affecting the person at the time, except for pot, IMO.

I think all employers should use swab/blood testing. It more accurately depicts the persons current state. I also don't drink and drive ever. I used to when I was young, but there's no way now.
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any sources on this information? what authority do you have to make such claims? id like to see some references
 
#486
#486
ScreaminVolHawkins said:
there is the cops testimony, the video of you driving, your refusal to take any tests. you'd better get a lawyer if this ever happens, b/c if you spit this kind of sh*t out in court and I was on jury, id vote to convict you in a heartbeat.
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Indeed. It would be in the attorneys hands. No argument there.
 
#489
#489
Obsessed said:
Your argument is that of a violation of rights. I don't concede to them. Period.

You on the other hand have no issue giving them up.





Look I don't condone his actions, my argument has always been to not pass judgment until all the facts are avaiable.

Some of you are chomping at the bit to convict someone off of a tweet.
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A drunk driver killing me or someone I care for is a far greater violation of my rights, than having to submit to a blood test if suspected of a DUI.
 
#492
#492
Vol8188 said:
Due process? Anyway, how about you answer the question. Without some form or blood or urine testing, how do we prove someone committed a DUI?
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also, im not saying your refusal cannot be used against you. why did you refuse? thats different from the extortion in the current system.
 
#493
#493
Vol8188 said:
A drunk driver killing me or someone I care for is a far greater violation of my rights, than having to submit to a blood test if suspected of a DUI.
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Do you pee sitting down?

Please define suspicion for a blood test
 
#494
#494
ScreaminVolHawkins said:
also, im not saying your refusal cannot be used against you. why did you refuse? thats different from the extortion in the current system.
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We will have to disagree here. I see no legit reason to refuse, and believe it is the only way to truly prove someone's guilt.
 
#497
#497
Vol8188 said:
We will have to disagree here. I see no legit reason to refuse, and believe it is the only way to truly prove someone's guilt.
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that is fine but it should be decided in court. there are reasons to refuse, and the person should have to explain them. if the jury or judge does not buy it then they get a DUI. im against this unjust implied consent law
 
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