Ainge DUI

#551
#551
Obsessed said:
You just can't see past your own refusal to understand. If every cop pulled some one over for bumping the yellow line they would never get anything done.

Half your posts are painted with a broad stroke, the other, well they just fail
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thats what ive been saying. he is a troll
 
#552
#552
BOP said:
This thread just shows how backwards people thinking is. Yeah let's give more power to police officers! They would never abuse this power!

But hey, nothing would surprise me. This is the society that puts a bigger stigmatism on killing a police officer in a shortcut, than murdering an unarmed, innocent civilian.
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Whose asking for more power?

If you all read your application for your drivers license you would know that when you signed your name agreeing to everything you were suppose to read, you would see that you agreed to a BAC when asked

Don't won't to agree, then don't drive

Its your choice

Just like someone chooses to get behind a wheel a drive drunk. Poor choice, but people make them everyday.

As for your other comment, we need not get into that discussion
 
#554
#554
Obsessed said:
How do you make it in this world with such a small mind?


Would you like fries with that?


Seriously man. My point was "where does it stop" everything I listed is against the law. Why not test you for when they pulled you over for dropping your cd?
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I have a small mind, yet you can't stay on topic? I've never suggested expansion of blood testing. I've only stated that I think it's the only way to prove a DUI, and should be mandatory. Although, I have no problem with alternatives (urine, breath, etc.). But the suspected should have to submit to some form of testing (beyond the field sobriety).
 
#555
#555
CountVolcula said:
Whose asking for more power?

If you all read your application for your drivers license you would know that when you signed your name agreeing to everything you were suppose to read, you would see that you agreed to a BAC when asked

Don't won't to agree, then don't drive

Its your choice

Just like someone chooses to get behind a wheel a drive drunk. Poor choice, but people make them everyday.

As for your other comment, we need not get into that discussion
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That's right. They aren't asking for more power. You already signed it away.

But hey count doesn't make the laws, he just enforces them.

Right count?
 
#556
#556
Obsessed said:
It was only a generalization.

Why stop at the known illegal drugs. Lets test for everything. You are positive for trazadone. Do you have a script?


My point is it will never stop. And taking meds that are not yours, antibotics or not carries a bigger fine and longer jail time than a dui
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hmm so the idea isnt to test for illegal drugs. you test for drugs that are known to affect driving. alcohol is legal, you do know this right? you can get a DUI on prescribed drugs. you cant drive on certain drugs, MDs and PhDs have studied these drugs and their effects and have decided you are endangering the lives of others by driving a machine that can easily kill others unintentionally. this is why they are illegal to use when driving it has nothing to do with the legality of the drug in question
 
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Vol8188 said:
I have a small mind, yet you can't stay on topic? I've never suggested expansion of blood testing. I've only stated that I think it's the only way to prove a DUI, and should be mandatory. Although, I have no problem with alternatives (urine, breath, etc.). But the suspected should have to submit to some form of testing (beyond the field sobriety).
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Man, every body here but you knows what I'm saying and implying.
 
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#558
235lbVol said:
That's not a freaking mistake! That's a freaking moron that needs his ass beat. As a firefighter I see this crap all the time and so many times only the victim is truly hurt....I make sure to not be gentle with my medical care to the drunk, and if my wife is ever hurt or worse by a drunk, I swear I will kill them on the spot, and my KPD officers will look the other way!! Stupid ass
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I know plenty of firefighters that are drunks and dope heads bc they can't deal with the stuff the see on a daily basis
 
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ScreaminVolHawkins said:
hmm so the idea isnt to test for illegal drugs. you test for drugs that are know to affect driving. alcohol is legal, you do know this right? you can get a DUI on prescribed drugs. you cant drive on certain drugs, MDs and PhDs have studied these drugs and their effects and we have decided you are endangering the lifes of others by driving a machine that can easier kill others unintentionally. this is why they are illegal to use when driving it has nothing to do with the legality of the drug in question
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No I would test for all drugs. Right? Why not? Inability to drive has no bearing if you are taking meds you don't have a script for.
Right.

Whether its antibotics or pain killers. It's against the law. Taking my wife's Xanax with out a script will get me jail time.
 
#562
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CountVolcula said:
Whose asking for more power?

If you all read your application for your drivers license you would know that when you signed your name agreeing to everything you were suppose to read, you would see that you agreed to a BAC when asked

Don't won't to agree, then don't drive

Its your choice

Just like someone chooses to get behind a wheel a drive drunk. Poor choice, but people make them everyday.

As for your other comment, we need not get into that discussion
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So what. I sighed something so I was able to live. No different than if you put a gun to my head and told me to give you my money, id do that too. But hey "I gave it to you"
 
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#563
#563
Drunk driving kills slightly more people in a year than accidental poisoning. Take into account multiple people in vehicles and the actual incidents per state are not as high as one would think. Awareness programs, checkpoints, sober ride assistance, etc have helped lower these numbers.

The FACT is the government only wants the money. A good majority of the fatalities are from multiple offenders who they keep letting go. Make no mistake the government does not want to stop drinking and driving.
 
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rockytophigh said:
Drunk driving kills slightly more people in a year than accidental poisoning. Take into account multiple people in vehicles and the actual incidents per state are not as high as one would think. Awareness programs, checkpoints, sober ride assistance, etc have helped lower these numbers.

The FACT is the government only wants the money. A good majority of the fatalities are from multiple offenders who they keep letting go. Make no mistake the government does not want to stop drinking and driving.
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Kind of like the war on drugs huh?


It's not designed to stop it. Just profit from it.
 
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235lbVol said:
Screw you....if my wife was hurt by one of these drunk p.o.s. my emotions will will enter everytime!
Beisdes, I'm not one of the fat ass firefighters or.bones....I make the uniform look good! By far not a disgrace, and do you think I'm the only one that feels like this? Lol. Bout 99% of us fire and police feel like this...
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I hope we could defund your pension
 
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#566
Obsessed said:
That's right. They aren't asking for more power. You already signed it away.

But hey count doesn't make the laws, he just enforces them.

Right count?
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Why did you sign the paper if you didnt agree to abide by it?


The real question is what gives you the right to get plastered and then drive?

I haven't found it in the Bill of Rights yet

Best practice is to get a DD or stay at home and drink if you can't handle the liquid courage
 
#567
#567
Obsessed said:
Kind of like the war on drugs huh?


It's not designed to stop it. Just profit from it.
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Interesting stance...

Since you believe they are just trying to profit from it, do you think they should increase the penalties? Should we give people 10-20 years for DUI?

Clearly you think the current penalties are not enough, right? Since the current laws aren't "designed to stop it. Just profit from it."
 
#568
#568
Count Volcula is bringing it strong.

Heres the reality, Ainge is guilty of not submitting a test. That has consequences. We may never know the rest. Based on video and representation he will either get out of it or not.

I just hope for EA he hasnt relapsed and who am I to judge whether he did or didnt, but the fact remains he didnt take blood test and there are consequences of that.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Why did you sign the paper if you didnt agree to abide by it?


The real question is what gives you the right to get plastered and then drive?

I haven't found it in the Bill of Rights yet

Best practice is to get a DD or stay at home and drink if you can't handle the liquid courage
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What gives him the right to endanger everyone on the road?
 
#570
#570
Obsessed said:
No I would test for all drugs. Right? Why not? Inability to drive has no bearing if you are taking meds you don't have a script for.
Right.

Whether its antibotics or pain killers. It's against the law. Taking my wife's Xanax with out a script will get me jail time.
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if it does not effect your ability to drive, then why would they test you? you are in a far more dystopian mindset than is our reality. we are talking about if its fair to give someone punishment because he will not allow the government to invade his body without a warrant from the judicial branch. i think no, i hope most americans do as well. your point about illegal testing has some relevance, but you have made it your main point.
 
#572
#572
His arrest is for dui, is it for alcohol or other drugs? Sorry, 38pgs in I didn't take the time to read.

Personally, as a public school teacher, I prefer to keep my chitty pay and NEVER drink and drive. One arrest and my coaching and teaching career is virtually over. Additionally, eight dollars of cab fare is not worth me taking someone's life. I hope my views are shared by all!
 
#573
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CountVolcula said:
Why did you sign the paper if you didnt agree to abide by it?


The real question is what gives you the right to get plastered and then drive?

I haven't found it in the Bill of Rights yet

Best practice is to get a DD or stay at home and drink if you can't handle the liquid courage
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Or hire a limo or car service
 
#574
#574
dsvol said:
Don't really care, that's his personal issue and does not affect how I feel about him or UT. I feel bad for him, but its not worthy of a thread. There's got to be something better to talk about.

GBO
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man couldnt agree more!:good!:
 
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