Ainge going off on Graham!

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GmanTN said:
So people are upset because Graham wanted to make more money and provide for his family. Who is to say that Graham and his style of play was a good fit for our new offense. Graham taught more power running and we are going to be a spread offense.
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I would easily take a pay cut to work at my dream job. I don't make anywhere near what JG made a UT and my family and I are just fine. Chasing money will not solve problems or make you happy. Working where you love is something many, many people don't have the luxury of. What this tells me is that UT was clearly not JG's dream job. Kiffin left to work his dream job. Even though he totally screwed us, I cannot fault him for that. The thing that is standing out to me since this new coaching staff has come in is that the coaches with ties to the University are the ones letting us down. JG may have done some good in recruiting for us before he jumped ship, and for that, I am thankful. Neither he nor TM have done themselves any favors in my book. Their past achievements at the U are still there but when their Alma Mater, considered by most to be a dream job, came calling they stayed with the Lame or turned south to a warmer climate.
 
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Sure does sound like there is a little more to this story for sure because if we offered him more than FSU and he still went, something not right on the inside for sure. I wonder if him not pulling in a great RB recruit caused Butch to say something and he not like it? No one knows for sure but something smells that is for sure!
 
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billbattle said:
Loyalty is only a very thin veneer these days for most people. Rare to find the real thing.
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Everything is "business" now.
I wonder what JG was not happy with at his alma mater?

I have lost all faith with these people, they always let us down.
 
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BaldBiker said:
This thread just got really quiet, so I would say a lot.
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I think everyone in this thread is on ignore for being mean.

Vol Main said:
WTF kind of stupid, nasty reply is that? Answer is...the kind that I will not be seeing anymore from you.
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Vol Main said:
And I call cheap shot on you, just another VN poster attacking another poster for expressing his opinion. If you think I am "full of ish," the ignore icon is on the lower left. Use it. I just did.
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JG signed on with Dooley - so there was something appealing about Dools and that staff that got him here. It's not unreasonable to assume CBJ's new direction and pace weren't a fit for Jay.

Good luck to him - and here's hoping Butch hires somebody better.
 
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UGA insider said:
Question for my Vol amigos,

So JG left because he did not want to live up to the demands of Coach Jones?

Then, why would Butch keep an incompetent coach on his staff? Why would Butch then match the offer to keep an incompetent coach on his staff?

I would be questioning Coach Jones instead about his decisions.

This was not meant to troll, just pointing some things out.
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There are other ways to look at this in which everybody is acting perfectly reasonably and nobody has to be the villain.

Assume for the sake of argument that CBJ wanted CJG to work 80 hours/week, and that he had good reasons for this requirement. Assume also that CJG was used to working more like 50 hours/week at South Carolina. Assume that a football program achieves certain efficiencies when it has been properly functioning and competitive for an extended period (e.g., recruiting might require less effort when you have a recent successful track record), and that these efficiencies account for the difference in performance expectations and workload between South Carolina and Tennessee. In this scenario, both Spurrier and Jones could be said to be making the correct demands of their staff based on the different stages of the respective programs' development even though one job requires more hours per week. Now, assume that Florida State is in more of a South Carolina position than a Tennessee position when it comes to rebuilding. If so, an offer of the same salary by Tennessee would still translate to significantly less pay on an hourly basis, and CJG might have perfectly reasonably things he would rather do with the other 30 hours a week of free time he'll have at FSU.

So, you know... there are a lot of assumptions here, but they seem reasonable enough to me. It's entirely possible that the matching salary Tennessee offered was not really an equivalent offer, that both CJG and CBJ are perfectly qualified football coaches, and that CJG is just taking advantage of an opportunity to work less for the same pay. None of this makes any of them better or worse. Tennessee may well be better off in the long run. Who knows?

Good luck to CJG.
 
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We hired a ****ty coach who hired a bunch of ****ty coaches and he can't keep the best recruiter on staff. Why is anyone surprised by that?
 
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Former UT players are in a no win situation here. They're legacies get ruined if the position they coach doesn't produce. People already had bashed him over Green and Bell's recruitment....its a no.win situation....once Ainge gets hired to coach then he can run his mouth
 
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Ok. Pissed like everybody! But if he doesn't want to be here then beat wishes!!! I wish him the best! Jones needs to find his loyalty of a coach. Not the way I wanted to start off thou..
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
There are other ways to look at this in which everybody is acting perfectly reasonably and nobody has to be the villain.

Assume for the sake of argument that CBJ wanted CJG to work 80 hours/week, and that he had good reasons for this requirement. Assume also that CJG was used to working more like 50 hours/week at South Carolina. Assume that a football program achieves certain efficiencies when it has been properly functioning and competitive for an extended period (e.g., recruiting might require less effort when you have a recent successful track record), and that these efficiencies account for the difference in performance expectations and workload between South Carolina and Tennessee. In this scenario, both Spurrier and Jones could be said to be making the correct demands of their staff based on the different stages of the respective programs' development even though one job requires more hours per week. Now, assume that Florida State is in more of a South Carolina position than a Tennessee position when it comes to rebuilding. If so, an offer of the same salary by Tennessee would still translate to significantly less pay on an hourly basis, and CJG might have perfectly reasonably things he would rather do with the other 30 hours a week of free time he'll have at FSU.

So, you know... there are a lot of assumptions here, but they seem reasonable enough to me. It's entirely possible that the matching salary Tennessee offered was not really an equivalent offer, that both CJG and CBJ are perfectly qualified football coaches, and that CJG is just taking advantage of an opportunity to work less for the same pay. None of this makes any of them better or worse. Tennessee may well be better off in the long run. Who knows?

Good luck to CJG.
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I incline to agree that there may be different attitudes and methods in conflict...not necessarily a bad on either party.

Hard work is one thing, but I do not believe human beings can work eighty hours a week for months on end without losing their mental and physical health. So I find it difficult to believe that Coach Jones expects that of his staff, except for occasional crunch times.
 
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volsbrock said:
Just trying to give you the benefit of doubt of not knowing anything about coaches
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It's fine, I'll just pull this back up when Jones is fired in 3 or 4 years just like his predecessor. Oh yeah, and by the way, I listened to a bunch of idiots tell me Dooley was a good coach, too. How do they look now?
 
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