Alabama fan fired after tweeting he was 'glad' receiver struck female Tennessee fan

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BigNasty said:
My entire point is that if I am not on the clock or in any way affiliating with my employer that as long as I’m not breaking the law what I do or say so long as it in no way affects my performance on the job in non of their freaking business. I don’t expect you of anyone on this board to agree with me. It’s just how I see it and fully admit could be way off base.
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He linked his employer and job title to his twitter.
 
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rltw1974 said:
Weak move by the company, but that is how soft our society has gotten! What the guy said was distasteful but he don’t deserve to lose his livelihood.

This country better hope we never get invaded by one of the big 3 because they will roll thru us like Moses thru the Red Sea! The only advantage the U.S. has is technology.
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The big three? Surely your not including Russia in that. LOL
 
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Time to complain and send tape to the SEC for review, 24 hours
Time to review the video to determine did Burton hit that girl, 6 days and counting...
Fama has some bucked up priorities.
 
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VOLtaism said:
No, lets just take his job away, possibly his house, car and make his family suffer. Was our corporation harmed, no, better safe than sorry. thats a lot of power to be wielding around. What if they decide people who discuss issues on message boards should be fired? People who watch porn online or people who are have different views on climate change. Where do you draw the line?
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You don’t know that the corporation wasn’t harmed. Active and potential clients who were being courted may have seen it and told his employer they do not want to be associated with a company that has employees who represent those values.

Even if it wasn’t an active result on the client front there is absolutely reason to believe it could be and the employer felt they needed to take action before it happened. Employers in most states can let you go for any reason at all, including no reason. You can’t blame the employer here.

For those spend their time looking for people so they can ruin them, I do think that’s a pretty sad existence and a terrible use of their time. People really should worry more about themselves. Once they did find him and the media issues began though, his company didn’t have a lot of great choices. They had to determine if keeping him was worth it, and well, apparently it wasn’t.

I do feel bad for the guy. I hope it was just a really bad joke and this isn’t who he really is. I hope he learns from this and moves forward with his life. This isn’t the end for him unless he lets it be. Many people have made mistakes and rebounded.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
She was indeed, now, do you know the circumstances under which this was done? This doesn't justify open season on abusing women, just in case some nitwit sees it that, it does no such thing. But one should be well aware of what led to Jez-baby being window tossed.

And while I'm at it, ole Jez, flies into the face of those who make the abolitionist claim that a man shouldn't lay his hands on a woman for ANY reason. I don't condone hitting women, too many protoplasmic things that call themselves men, who wantonly, and even brag about hitting a woman, some even so hard she loses consciousness. I'd be in favor of dragging or luring those things off to some secluded spot and [I'll stop here so I don't say something that gets me banned.]. However, there are some cases where women are just as bad as men and must be stopped, sometimes by law enforcement, as I have seen. I've seen women beating her kid so hard she bled and could no longer stand. Then shot the guy who tried to stop the beating. On an old TV program called, I think, The Mother Love Show, an episode about domestic abuse was aired. Of course, they focused on male abuse of females. The sole guy on stage who was a victim, they gave 25 seconded of mention, then returned to extended talk about bad men abusing women. But let's get back to the guy, which they didn't. His girlfriend (by her own admission) wrongly accused him of cheating on her. IIRC, he had met with his half-sister or a cousin at a restaurant. Something about her wanting his advice about what to do about her son who was using drugs. Anyway, the angry girlfriend waited until he was asleep, heated a skillet of hot oil and poured it on his face. Blinded him in one eye. My point is, the abolitionist claim of never for any reason is absurd. There are times and circumstances when a person, male or female, has to be stopped. Naturally, this doesn't apply to what that Burton thing did to that gal.
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Huh?
 
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Sorry to see him fired, but I suspect is that there were many other reasons and the tweet was the straw that broke the camels back. He is a grown man that put out a classless tweet days after the loss, but to me, that alone does not deserve losing your job.
 
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volman128 said:
I'm sorry, I must've missed something. Is he being charged with a crime? :rolleyes:

"Free country" also applies to his employer, BTW.
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LOL, does not mean the same for employers. There are a multitude of reasons an employee can't be fired. Race, age, health just to name a few.
 
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hog88 said:
Again, we don't know if the company was injured (threatened with loss of business) or not. Heck, you could consider the public embarrassment injury enough.
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I understand completely but always fall on the side of free speech and I hate the cancel culture, even though this is not exactly the same thing. It's a slippery slope because someone somewhere is making a decision on whats OK to say. In this case they are correct but next time they may move the line a bit. I realize this is not mainstream thinking now.
 
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rltw1974 said:
Weak move by the company, but that is how soft our society has gotten! What the guy said was distasteful but he don’t deserve to lose his livelihood.

This country better hope we never get invaded by one of the big 3 because they will roll thru us like Moses thru the Red Sea! The only advantage the U.S. has is technology.
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Yes he does. It reflects very badly on an employer stupid enough to keep this guy on payroll. You do something this galactically dumb, expect to lose your job.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'd have fired him too. You never want your company associated with someone who sees hitting anyone unprovoked, especially a woman, as a positive thing. Every company with any sense has a social media policy these days, for incidents just like this.
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I get the social media policy and all but that said he was a 6 year employee. I would hope my supervisor that he's assigned to would reach out to him and have a conversation. And to be fair I don't know what else may have been in his file. But I certainly hope a tenured employee lost his job for tweeting something. Even though it's a disposable comment but I have never been one who had an issue with people saying things. If I don't like it I have the ability to ignore it.
 
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BigNasty said:
There’s a big difference between doing something on the clock and off the clock. When did my perfectly legal actions in my personal life become my employer’s business? I’ve long had a problem with this. This is a slippery slope that we’re adding grease to on a daily basis. Did this guy say something stupid? Damn right he did. Thousands if not millions died to make sure he had the right to say it. Policing language is just the beginning. Look at history.
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And those who currently fight for that right which others have died for, well they can’t say squat on social media, can’t post images supporting the 2A and have even more restrictions placed upon them if wearing something that identifies who they work for.
 
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VOLtaism said:
I understand completely but always fall on the side of free speech and I hate the cancel culture, even though this is not exactly the same thing. It's a slippery slope because someone somewhere is making a decision on whats OK to say. In this case they are correct but next time they may move the line a bit. I realize this is not mainstream thinking now.
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Let me stop you. It's not a free speech issue. Good lord civics class people
 
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BigNasty said:
There’s a big difference between doing something on the clock and off the clock. When did my perfectly legal actions in my personal life become my employer’s business? I’ve long had a problem with this. This is a slippery slope that we’re adding grease to on a daily basis. Did this guy say something stupid? Damn right he did. Thousands if not millions died to make sure he had the right to say it. Policing language is just the beginning. Look at history.
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It's always been their business. Your company finds out your hosting NAMBLA meetings at home they shouldn't take issue. Not actually acting on it. But you support it. Your company should just be cool with that and the potential damage. GTFO.
 
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Kele is a multimillion dollar international company not Joey’s local hardware store. Of course his stupid social media stuff was going to earn him a parting of ways. If not by VolTwitter or offended clients then by anybody he worked with who wanted his sales contracts and saw his idiotic tweets and posts.
 
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DynaLo said:
Kele is a multimillion dollar international company not Joey’s local hardware store. Of course his stupid social media stuff was going to earn him a parting of ways. If not by VolTwitter or offended clients then by anybody he worked with who wanted his sales contracts and saw his idiotic tweets and posts.
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They have an obligation to their share holders to not lose a cent over this idiot
 
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volfanhill said:
They have an obligation to their share holders to not lose a cent over this idiot
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I think someone said it well way earlier in the thread:

This guy saying what he said while being not only personally identifiable but also openly associated with his employer at the very least was terrible judgement. Stupid.

In general, if it’s my company, I don’t think having employees who wouldn’t think to see that this might be bad idea before doing it is going to help us achieve our goals. Certainly not without me worrying constantly about what they will do next.

Again, I wish him no ill will and hope he learns and comes back from this. It’s gonna hurt his prospects to some extent but it’s something he can grow from and get past.

I know we all screw up, but also our actions have consequences and that is the way it should be. It’s a setback for the guy but also an opportunity of sorts.
 
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We live in a country where felons who serve their time can come out, work hard, and make something of themselves. It’s not easy, they are at a disadvantage over their pre-felon selves, and have limited opportunities compared to the normal population but they still have opportunities. Some of them make the most of them. This guy losing his job for exercising poor judgement is not gonna be his last chance, unless he lets it be.
 
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vols40 said:
I get the social media policy and all but that said he was a 6 year employee. I would hope my supervisor that he's assigned to would reach out to him and have a conversation. And to be fair I don't know what else may have been in his file. But I certainly hope a tenured employee lost his job for tweeting something. Even though it's a disposable comment but I have never been one who had an issue with people saying things. If I don't like it I have the ability to ignore it.
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His company was being bombarded on the same social media platform about it. He immediately became a liability. They can't afford to ignore it. Advocating for an even more severe beating of a woman because your team lost a football game was incredibly stupid to say, it became even more so to do it on an account with your actual name and the name of your company in your profile. No company with a brain is going to be associated with an employee like that.

Here's a first amendment primer for everyone too.

You say something.

Were you arrested for it? If so, there's a chance your first amendment rights were violated unless what you said was a threat to harm someone or a threat to public safety.

If you were not arrested for it, your first amendment rights were not violated. There is no such thing as freedom of consequences from your peers, your employer, your community etc.

You can go on social media and say your company owner's wife is hot and you want her to jump in bed with you and not be arrested for it. You are probably losing your job for saying it though.
 
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I wish we had buzz words like “woke,” “cancel culture,” and “political correctness” when I was in high school so I could just blame others for what happens to me instead of being held accountable for my words and actions.
 
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