Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

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#176
#176
The_Orange_Pearl said:
Didn't everyone have like two losses though? I don't remember who the other two loss teams were or who they lost to.

I get what you're saying but like I said... I just flat out don't care that Oklahoma State won their conference. It has no bearing on my opinion and it seems as though there is no rule saying you have to win it to go to the championship. If there was a rule against it, then I have no choice but to except that argument. Since it's not, I don't. Not just because it's not a rule but because I don't agree with Alabama being punished for playing in the same division as the only undefeated team in the country.

What would you have said if Oregon won their conference with their only loss coming to LSU? Now you're just eliminating them because they already played LSU? That's still a better loss than Iowa State AND they won their conference. You're going to punish Oregon because they decided to play a quality opponent out oiIf conference? Powerhouse teams should just spread out into other conferences and not schedule quality OOC opponents if they are going to be punished.
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I don't know what Oregon's resume looks like, so I can't honestly answer that queation.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
They didn't beat ISU though. That's the point... every game counts.

Alabama didn't come close to losing to a 6-6 team. Aside from LSU who they took to overtime, they didn't come close to losing to anybody. The closest anyone came to beating Alabama was 17 points
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If using that logic, the same can be said for Bama. They had their shot and lost. In my book, you would go with quality wins and strength of schedule to find out who is #2. Bama sos is 38th OSU is 10th i think. ( i know its close to 10th)
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
You don't need to know their resume. If Oregon had gone unbeaten with the exception of the LSU loss, would they deserve a shot at a NC?
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Not if there is another 1 loss team with a better resume.


Strength of schedule MUST be put back into the equation to balance out a mess like this one.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
If using that logic, the same can be said for Bama. They had their shot and lost. In my book, you would go with quality wins and strength of schedule to find out who is #2. Bama sos is 38th OSU is 10th i think. ( i know its close to 10th)
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While quality wins are relevant in the argument, I think bad losses are more relevant. You can't always help if some of the teams you play aren't great, but you can totally control if you lose to horrible teams. And it's not like Alabama played a Boise St. level schedule and didn't beat anybody good. They avoided the disastrous loss while beating some pretty good teams along the way. Oklahoma St. didn't do that.
 
#182
#182
T Boone Pickens will buy Tuscaloser and burn it down if OSU doesn't go to title game.
 
#183
#183
What's with this "their loss was better" BS? Since when do we reward people for failing better? Okie State beat a ton of quality teams - more than Alabama has.
 
#184
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Not if there is another 1 loss team with a better resume.


Strength of schedule MUST be put back into the equation to balance out messes like these.
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Whether there is a SOS formula being "officially" factored in or not, it's a part of the rankings. People that vote in the polls take into consideration a teams level of competition when voting in the poll. Why do you think Boise St. has been left in the past out even though they've had unbeaten seasons?
 
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#185
VolinArizona said:
What's with this "their loss was better" BS? Since when do we reward people for failing better? Okie State beat a ton of quality teams - more than Alabama has.
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I guess that's a matter of how you percieve it. I guess by default Alabama will reap the reward, but IMO it's Chokie St. being penalized for their catastrophic failure against Iowa St.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Whether there is a SOS formula being "officially" factored in or not, it's a part of the rankings. People that vote in the polls take into consideration a teams level of competition when voting in the poll. Why do you think Boise St. has been left in the past out even though they've had unbeaten seasons?
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Please if the polls do they barely do so. All they pay attention to is what happened the previous week. SOS has little to no component in the human polls unless ESPN comes on and says "so and so should be ranked higher because they played tougher teams"

SOS is factored into the computer polls though, that's all that actually takes it into account. So at best it's...a ninth maybe.

But no the human polls take very little account of it (unless it's involving some name recognition)
 
#188
#188
VolinArizona said:
What's with this "their loss was better" BS? Since when do we reward people for failing better? Okie State beat a ton of quality teams - more than Alabama has.
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Seriously. I dont know what brought that into the limelight with fans recently...
 
#189
#189
If it's Alabama/LSU, and Alabama wins narrowly, while OSU wins impressively, could we have people voting three different teams #1?

I love the BCS.
 
#191
#191
Velo Vol said:
If it's Alabama/LSU, and Alabama wins narrowly, while OSU wins impressively, could we have people voting three different teams #1?

I love the BCS.
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In the old pre-BCS just multitude of polls system yes, you'd likely see a fair amount of that
 
#196
#196
BCS Guru: No Rematch!




Is this a legit source or just some random dude with a blog?

I wonder because we have that user on the recruiting forum that knows how to calculate the rivals standings before rivals updates them. Just wondering if this guy could potentially know the formula or has some inside info.
 
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