Alabama transfers

[DaddyChad]

Georgia going to be a handful.

 

[Cartervol]

Must not be very impressed with Banks either. I know i'm not..

 

[BruisedOrange]

Either OSU or UGA. We don’t swing for guys like that it seems.

thats the way it feels. The excuse is "We are looking for the right fit" what it feels like "We dont pay enough"

Seems like I remember a recent season-ruining loss at South Carolina that rumor attributes to one defensive starter who wasn't fitting the culture.

Michael Jackson was wrong. One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.

College players aren't bubblegum stat cards that can be simply collected and shuffled to create a winner. Locker rooms are families who spend twice as much time together as regular families--and much of it spent challenging and hitting each other!

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Coaches can't be successful pretending to be someone they aren't. There are a few, special coaches in each era who have the ability--the personality--to get the best players to play together for 3-4 years. Usually, those coaches succeed by being the biggest alpha a**hole in the building, forcing top players' huge egos to focus on a common goal.

Of course, when you have that kind of locker room, you need a system and a community around it that will "protect" those players from the consequences of their actions during the off-season.

All fans want to be associated with a "winner." Some fans define being a "winner" by the lowest common denominator: wins and losses.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Georgia going to be a handful.

They were already the best team we play next year before anything else and a title contender.

Better for us that Bama is getting weaker and makes that game way more winnable next year.

 

[Volnukem]

Bama fans acting like this is the end of the world, but they had similar transfer portal numbers last year. That index score will come up as they add UW players that follow DeBoer.

Note that most of those 17 3-stars that are transferring out were 4/5 stars coming out of high school.

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2024

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Might be because guys like that don't pitch to us? Let's be honest. The "perception' of OSU/UGA throughout college football is just better than UT right now. I wonder how many of the recruits UGA/OSU signed had us in their top 3 as well? Yeah, we get a 5 star here and there that one of those 2 programs wanted, but for the most part, we seem, to my uneducated eye, to be swimming in different recruiting waters than the elite programs.

Maybe. But why not try? Why not throw a big bag of money at an ultra talented player at a huge position of need? What’s the worst that can happen? He goes somewhere else? I mean I don’t understand why we can’t just try. I don’t want to hear anything about fit. Downs fits absolutely ANY and EVERY defensive scheme out there. I mean at least go down swinging for crying out loud.

 

[LouderVol]

Maybe. But why not try? Why not throw a big bag of money at an ultra talented player at a huge position of need? What’s the worst that can happen? He goes somewhere else? I mean I don’t understand why we can’t just try. I don’t want to hear anything about fit. Downs fits absolutely ANY and EVERY defensive scheme out there. I mean at least go down swinging for crying out loud.

in all likely hood its just because we know Georgia was tampering with him to start. Hired his position coach from Bama too. absolutely nothing to gain by throwing an offer to someone our coaches don't want for whatever reason, and secondly everyone knows where he is going.

the worst that can happen is that we piss off our own guys, spurring another bout of transfers or at least having to re-up the current NIL deals. that time and money is taken from getting other recruits we were chasing, who now feel slighted and lose interest in us. Heupel doesn't recruit like Bama and Georgia, no matter how much you don't like it. ruining our own recruiting scheme of fit/relationship for a single player is extremely short sighted, and could cost us more in the long run.

recruiting isn't about your instant gratification, in fact thats an incredibly dumb way to recruit in trying to please the fans or just doing something to do it because the player is good. I am sure the coaches weighed the options and made their decision. This isn't NCAA 2014 or Madden where you can just take the guys that you want.

 

[CAVPUT]

Maybe. But why not try? Why not throw a big bag of money at an ultra talented player at a huge position of need? What’s the worst that can happen? He goes somewhere else? I mean I don’t understand why we can’t just try. I don’t want to hear anything about fit. Downs fits absolutely ANY and EVERY defensive scheme out there. I mean at least go down swinging for crying out loud.

Isn't it possible that we did try and were rebuffed? Don't get me wrong. I'm a UT alum and have been going to games since '65. While I love UT, if I were a top recruit, I'd certainly be looking at OSU, UGA, bama in a different light than UT.

 

[rdavis007]

in all likely hood its just because we know Georgia was tampering with him to start. Hired his position coach from Bama too. absolutely nothing to gain by throwing an offer to someone our coaches don't want for whatever reason, and secondly everyone knows where he is going.

the worst that can happen is that we piss off our own guys, spurring another bout of transfers or at least having to re-up the current NIL deals. that time and money is taken from getting other recruits we were chasing, who now feel slighted and lose interest in us. Heupel doesn't recruit like Bama and Georgia, no matter how much you don't like it. ruining our own recruiting scheme of fit/relationship for a single player is extremely short sighted, and could cost us more in the long run.

recruiting isn't about your instant gratification, in fact thats an incredibly dumb way to recruit in trying to please the fans or just doing something to do it because the player is good. I am sure the coaches weighed the options and made their decision. This isn't NCAA 2014 or Madden where you can just take the guys that you want.

If we are paying players they need to man up! Reality is in the real world they may get their feeling hurt many times over their lifetime. Its how they respond that will determine if they are successful. If they believe they are a commodity to be paid for their services then they should put on Big Boy Pants and earn it!

 

[orangejuice]

Bama fans acting like this is the end of the world, but they had similar transfer portal numbers last year. That index score will come up as they add UW players that follow DeBoer.

Note that most of those 17 3-stars that are transferring out were 4/5 stars coming out of high school.

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Here is a perfect example of the fallacy that is their "team talent" calculator. "Note that most of those 17 3-stars that are transferring out were 4/5 stars coming out of high school." So they only get counted as a "3*" when they transfer out but if they stay on the team, the talent calculator still counts them as a 4/5*. So which one is it?

 

[Visidog]

in all likely hood its just because we know Georgia was tampering with him to start. Hired his position coach from Bama too. absolutely nothing to gain by throwing an offer to someone our coaches don't want for whatever reason, and secondly everyone knows where he is going.

the worst that can happen is that we piss off our own guys, spurring another bout of transfers or at least having to re-up the current NIL deals. that time and money is taken from getting other recruits we were chasing, who now feel slighted and lose interest in us. Heupel doesn't recruit like Bama and Georgia, no matter how much you don't like it. ruining our own recruiting scheme of fit/relationship for a single player is extremely short sighted, and could cost us more in the long run.

recruiting isn't about your instant gratification, in fact thats an incredibly dumb way to recruit in trying to please the fans or just doing something to do it because the player is good. I am sure the coaches weighed the options and made their decision. This isn't NCAA 2014 or Madden where you can just take the guys that you want.

I mostly agree with this take (except for the tampering bit). Portal recruiting can wreck a team’s culture. HS recruiting multi-year guys is the main way to build sustained success. Teams cannot ignore the portal, but it creates lots of problems. For example, Bama is trying to backfill losing CB recruits by bringing in a 1-year transfer from Washington. To be fair, they need players badly. But he’ll be gone in a year, and there won’t be any depth behind him. If I were a new coach, I would take my lumps in 2024 instead of slapping a bandaid on 2024 and creating a bigger problem in 25-26.

 

[LouderVol]

If we are paying players they need to man up! Reality is in the real world they may get their feeling hurt many times over their lifetime. Its how they respond that will determine if they are successful. If they believe they are a commodity to be paid for their services then they should put on Big Boy Pants and earn it!

thats fine and all, except for the whole reality thing. these kids are in very high demand. they are setting the terms right now. you play their game or you are getting left behind.

UT's recruiting pitch seems to be far different than just lobbing money around and seeing who takes a bite. but we also don't ignore that money is part of it.

 

[LouderVol]

I mostly agree with this take (except for the tampering bit). Portal recruiting can wreck a team’s culture. HS recruiting multi-year guys is the main way to build sustained success. Teams cannot ignore the portal, but it creates lots of problems. For example, Bama is trying to backfill losing CB recruits by bringing in a 1-year transfer from Washington. To be fair, they need players badly. But he’ll be gone in a year, and there won’t be any depth behind him. If I were a new coach, I would take my lumps in 2024 instead of slapping a bandaid on 2024 and creating a bigger problem in 25-26.

the tampering is all legal now anyway. I am sure Georgia was reaching out to the kids agent and not the kid directly. same difference, but one is NCAA legal.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Must not be very impressed with Banks either. I know i'm not..

Come on y’all. Making wishes doesn’t make everything better. It takes time. We are continually getting better. But we haven’t made it from a 4 win team to the top of the mountain yet.

Most of the players that chose AL went there for a guaranteed title. They are now looking at other places with as much talent that gives them the best odds of winning. They will get the same money we would give.

 

[itsme]

The best time we have will be when Jalen Milroe decides to transfer. Bama meltdown.

 

[knoxvol52]

Ty Simpson probably fits CKD offense better than Jalen MilRoe, don't believe it would be that huge of a loss with the change of OC..

 

[SweetasSoda]

If we are paying players they need to man up! Reality is in the real world they may get their feeling hurt many times over their lifetime. Its how they respond that will determine if they are successful. If they believe they are a commodity to be paid for their services then they should put on Big Boy Pants and earn it!

Or they can take their big boy pants somewhere else that makes them feel wanted and get paid the same if not more. That’s the reality of the portal.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Here is a perfect example of the fallacy that is their "team talent" calculator. "Note that most of those 17 3-stars that are transferring out were 4/5 stars coming out of high school." So they only get counted as a "3*" when they transfer out but if they stay on the team, the talent calculator still counts them as a 4/5*. So which one is it?

I’ve noticed the star rankings seem to drop if you leave as a backup, and it seems to go up if you leave as a star player on a team that is looking for a better school. Kinda an easy way to do all this quickly. Anyone else notice that?

 

[CAVPUT]

The best time we have will be when Jalen Milroe decides to transfer. Bama meltdown.

Not sure about that. Frankly, I don't think he fits DeBoer's offense all that well. Said it elsewhere that it wouldn't shock me if Milroe isn't on the roster next season. Kinda expect it to be honest.

 

[orange parmejohn]

I need my decommittment fix.

 

[aRmo]

All fans want to be associated with a "winner." Some fans define being a "winner" by the lowest common denominator: wins and losses.

I agree with what you said. This quote can be taken a few different ways. I laughed because it reminded me of Botch Jones. "Champions of Life" comments.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

‘Bama fans on other sites acting like this is the end of College Football is absolutely killing me.

They have been spoiled by Saban for so long they have no comprehension what it has been like for other teams and their fans. We were gutted by the Transfer Portal before Heupel’s first season, and yet here we are.

They finally get a taste of what it’s been like for everyone else and they want to cry foul. I hope they plummet and wallow in mediocrity for a century.

Fify

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

The obese Tackle that got smoked all yr is transferring. Damn Milroe not gonna know a soul on the team hahaha

Got smoked because he was an 18 year old kid playing tackle in the SEC. Still a big loss for them if he leaves.

 

[rdavis007]

Or they can take their big boy pants somewhere else that makes them feel wanted and get paid the same if not more. That’s the reality of the portal.

And its only that way because we as fans have allowed it. I understand what you are saying but it is time for a course correction, as is life! What goes up , must come down. Sadly, It will continue to sprial out of control as long as we as fans continue to put them on a pedestal. At some point they will get a reality check.

 

[MarcoVol]