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Interesting one that I wasn't really tracking before. If I hadn't started a large position in RIVN today I would probably take a bite. Will keep an eye on it.

Dell and Hewlett-Packard are Super Micro’s primary competition.

If SMCI can withstand the DOJ’s investigation, the current and forward P/Es suggest lots of upside considering their AI, crypto mining, and cloud demand. There’s no telling where things go with accusations of accounting irregularities. It might be dead money while the situation sorts out.
 
Dell and Hewlett-Packard are Super Micro’s primary competition.

If SMCI can withstand the DOJ’s investigation, the current and forward P/Es suggest lots of upside considering their AI, crypto mining, and cloud demand. There’s no telling where things go with accusations of accounting irregularities. It might be dead money while the situation sorts out.

They couldnt get 10K filed within 60 days (and now 90) after their year end. Must be huge issue with internal controls or financials since auditors clearly not signing off...

This is above and beyond DOJ issues...
 
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They couldnt get 10K filed within 60 days (and now 90) after their year end. Must be huge issue with internal controls or financials since auditors clearly not signing off...

This is above and beyond DOJ issues...

Lots of companies have ****** accounting practices. Also, missing filing deadlines could be a symptom rather than an underlying issue. If there has been something criminal going on, the internal and external accountants would have to be idiots to ignore it and file/sign off on fraudulent documents.

Shortly after their last high profile accounting irregularities they were added to the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ 100. Also the shares skyrocketed. If they avoid convictions the other stuff will work itself out. It’s not that difficult to get rid of the bad players once they’re exposed.

It wouldn’t surprise me if senior management is skewed toward sales (and engineering). The sales executives are usually put in charge when companies are doing great while finance often gets put in charge after the company has been f’d up.
 
SMCI isn’t in an incredible and unique industry. They probably just need better managers. Buffett ran the insurance side efficiently and effectively. B-H didn’t invent insurance. Chipotle is another example. Their business isn’t complicated. They just execute at a high level. SMCI has a backlog of orders and generates revenue as quickly as they can push their products off the loading docks and onto trucks. And they only two formidable competitors.
 
Lots of companies have ****** accounting practices. Also, missing filing deadlines could be a symptom rather than an underlying issue. If there has been something criminal going on, the internal and external accountants would have to be idiots to ignore it and file/sign off on fraudulent documents.

Shortly after their last high profile accounting irregularities they were added to the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ 100. Also the shares skyrocketed. If they avoid convictions the other stuff will work itself out. It’s not that difficult to get rid of the bad players once they’re exposed.

It wouldn’t surprise me if senior management is skewed toward sales (and engineering). The sales executives are usually put in charge when companies are doing great while finance often gets put in charge after the company has been f’d up.

There are few, if any, companies the size of SCMI have the issues and repeated issues SCMI has. Filing 10Ks late is a big red flag.

Missing deadlines is absolutely a symptom of a bigger program. The question is how wrong their interim financial stmts have been......

Are you really buying a company with a 20 PE ratio or one with a 35 PE or 50 PE?
 
If you're going to fake earnings you have to start earlier than they evidently did.

A red flag is operating income per income statement for 2024 thru Q3 (922M of income) far deviates from cash flows from operating activities (1.85 billion loss)....

Its not a bad valuation if their financials are accurate as TGO pointed out. I just have major concerns on accuracy.
 
There are few, if any, companies the size of SCMI have the issues and repeated issues SCMI has. Filing 10Ks late is a big red flag.

Missing deadlines is absolutely a symptom of a bigger program. The question is how wrong their interim financial stmts have been......

Are you really buying a company with a 20 PE ratio or one with a 35 PE or 50 PE?

3 weeks ago the CEO announced that they don’t expect to have material restatements of their financials.

It’s been suggested that the DOJ investigation is due to the short selling firm’s accusations. Not properly reporting related party transactions wouldn’t necessitate restating previously published financials. Operating in the gray area with exports might only result in an immaterial fine. But the short seller can throw those things out there and make it sound worse than it is and then cover their short position after share prices react. The info is also leaking out to the media from somewhere other than the DOJ.

Stock already fell by 2/3rds and they’re still cranking out products. A 50x p/e would be cheap if shares get back even half of the decline. But if they don’t have to restate as the CEO previously suggested, shares might be a really good value right now. Almost 40% of firms are still rating SCMI as a buy.

If I get involved I’ll probably hold off until after the upcoming 10 for 1 split settles down. I also kind of want to see if Kamala wins and the D’s get more seats in Congress. But the latter applies to everything. I might go heavy into crypto if that scenario plays out.
 
3 weeks ago the CEO announced that they don’t expect to have material restatements of their financials.

It’s been suggested that the DOJ investigation is due to the short selling firm’s accusations. Not properly reporting related party transactions wouldn’t necessitate restating previously published financials. Operating in the gray area with exports might only result in an immaterial fine. But the short seller can throw those things out there and make it sound worse than it is and then cover their short position after share prices react. The info is also leaking out to the media from somewhere other than the DOJ.

Stock already fell by 2/3rds and they’re still cranking out products. A 50x p/e would be cheap if shares get back even half of the decline. But if they don’t have to restate as the CEO previously suggested, shares might be a really good value right now. Almost 40% of firms are still rating SCMI as a buy.

If I get involved I’ll probably hold off until after the upcoming 10 for 1 split settles down. I also kind of want to see if Kamala wins and the D’s get more seats in Congress. But the latter applies to everything. I might go heavy into crypto if that scenario plays out.

If the issues aren't material, I agree with you. It's a good valuation to buy.

The disparity between cash flow from operations and income from operations just gives me Worldcom flashbacks. Not implying anything, it's just another reason why I'm hesitant to catch this falling knife..

(Best career move was not taking job with AA audit after graduation in Jackson, MS office since they signed off on Worldcom)
 
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If the issues aren't material, I agree with you. It's a good valuation to buy.

The disparity between cash flow from operations and income from operations just gives me Worldcom flashbacks. Not implying anything, it's just another reason why I'm hesitant to catch this falling knife..

(Best career move was not taking job with AA audit after graduation in Jackson, MS office since they signed off on Worldcom)

Yeah, I wouldn’t make much of a WorldCom analogy either. Or Enron or the dot coms or even Tyco. Their business seems sound. It might just be that senior management are tech guys that are clueless about how to run a company that’s no longer a small cap with only a couple billion of sales.
 
Yeah, I wouldn’t make much of a WorldCom analogy either. Or Enron or the dot coms or even Tyco. Their business seems sound. It might just be that senior management are tech guys that are clueless about how to run a company that’s no longer a small cap with only a couple billion of sales.

I agree, this is a profitable company from both cash flow/accounting perspective. I do think how profitable is a fair question to ask.

The disparity between accounting/cash flow was the real smoking gun behind Worldcom (For yrs Worldcom reported positive accounting income from operations but showed consistent losses in cash flow from ops) That was the point that I'm making. I wasnt saying they were broke like Worldcom, I was just stating that was evidence there could be some creative accounting here.
 


Long term China is a mess. They have as much of a national debt problem as we do. Their government is pretty much one guy. Their demographics are imploding. I don’t think that the trend of companies in the free world finding better options for supply chains will end. And they’re being a PIA with their endless military threats.

Short term it looks like the bullish trade has had an unsustainable run. They still cheat, steal, and can’t be trusted.
 
And now SAVE will soon be declaring bankruptcy. Thank you Joe and Kamala for protecting the consumers.

 
And now SAVE will soon be declaring bankruptcy. Thank you Joe and Kamala for protecting the consumers.

Not sure if there is anything worse than Spirit? One time was too many for me.
Jet Blue finally shows a profit so now they want to buy a trash airline.
It'll be intersting to see if anyone else wants Spirit as a going concern.
 
Could be nothing, but those who pay attention to more of the technical side of trading, NVDA's chart over the last 2-3 months looks nearly identical to the chart before it's last run up (early March to Mid May). Could be ready to break out of this consolidation stage we've been in since July. Would be nice to see $150 before the end of the year.
 
Will NVDA break past it's ATH this week? Currently only about 4.5% away with a lot of momentum.
 
ASML is attractive. But with the 44x p/e and 40x forward p/e there might be time to buy before they push toward the trillion dollar club.

OXY is worth looking at. It’s much closer to its 52 week low than the 52 week high and (as far as I know) Warren Buffett hasn’t bailed out on it.
 
i own the three major cruise lines. RCL, NCHL and CCL.
Up today at the moment 4.3%, 9.5%, and 6.4%
I think they have a way to go.

2020(covid) nearly put them out of business. Probably would have, but what creditor wants to own a bunch of cruise ships.
Ha, we just returned from an 11 day cruise on 9-20. I got covid on the last day.
 
This isn’t a stock question, because I know stocks wouldn’t be the best option for me, but I also know you guys are smart and can lead me in the right direction. I sold a home 2 years ago and have kept the profit of that money liquid in a high yield savings because the interest rate between the savings account and cd were the same. I had thought by now I would have used the money to purchase a new home, but with how high the rates have been and how expensive the homes are, I decided to hold off. My question now is what do you think I should do with the money? I want to buy a new home, but am waiting for the housing market to come back down and interest rates to lower. That could be a year or 5 years- nobody knows. In the meantime with the feds starting to cut interest rates the rates on cds and high yield saving accounts are also dropping. I’m not sure if I should split the money half into a cd and half into a high yield savings, or keep it all in a high yield savings or do something else. I don’t want to put all of it in a cd because I want to make sure I have money liquid if needed. I am currently earning 4% in my high yield savings. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
 
This isn’t a stock question, because I know stocks wouldn’t be the best option for me, but I also know you guys are smart and can lead me in the right direction. I sold a home 2 years ago and have kept the profit of that money liquid in a high yield savings because the interest rate between the savings account and cd were the same. I had thought by now I would have used the money to purchase a new home, but with how high the rates have been and how expensive the homes are, I decided to hold off. My question now is what do you think I should do with the money? I want to buy a new home, but am waiting for the housing market to come back down and interest rates to lower. That could be a year or 5 years- nobody knows. In the meantime with the feds starting to cut interest rates the rates on cds and high yield saving accounts are also dropping. I’m not sure if I should split the money half into a cd and half into a high yield savings, or keep it all in a high yield savings or do something else. I don’t want to put all of it in a cd because I want to make sure I have money liquid if needed. I am currently earning 4% in my high yield savings. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
You dun good.
Three things are certain in life: Death, taxes, and ever-rising home prices. They seldom come down.
Paying rent now?
Find the home you want and buy it.
As interest rates drop home prices will likely go up as more people will be able to afford/buy a home.
Everything is a trade off.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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This isn’t a stock question, because I know stocks wouldn’t be the best option for me, but I also know you guys are smart and can lead me in the right direction. I sold a home 2 years ago and have kept the profit of that money liquid in a high yield savings because the interest rate between the savings account and cd were the same. I had thought by now I would have used the money to purchase a new home, but with how high the rates have been and how expensive the homes are, I decided to hold off. My question now is what do you think I should do with the money? I want to buy a new home, but am waiting for the housing market to come back down and interest rates to lower. That could be a year or 5 years- nobody knows. In the meantime with the feds starting to cut interest rates the rates on cds and high yield saving accounts are also dropping. I’m not sure if I should split the money half into a cd and half into a high yield savings, or keep it all in a high yield savings or do something else. I don’t want to put all of it in a cd because I want to make sure I have money liquid if needed. I am currently earning 4% in my high yield savings. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Buying debt isn’t a bad idea with interest rates expected to be cut several more times. But that doesn’t include the very short maturities - those rates will fall but the value of the debt won’t rise. Longer term to maturity will rise in value in the secondary market as interest rates fall.

As far as housing prices, all things being equal, when mortgage rates fall the home values will rise. Housing tends to get priced at what homeowners can afford per month. So if monthly payments fall due to interest rates falling, then the cost of the house will rise to find an equilibrium based on those monthly payments.

However, real estate is primarily dependent on the local market. If builders can’t keep up with the demand then prices will be up. If they overbuild the market then home prices should fall (or at least not go up).

One other thing to consider, as interest rates fall the supply of homes will increase. A lot of people are hanging on to their homes because they have very low interest rates on their mortgages and they don’t want to pay those loans off by selling.

Laddering CDs might be a good option. It’s safe and maintains liquidity to move quickly if the right home comes available. Split between 1 month, 3 month, 6 month, 9 month, 12 month, 18 month, 2 year, etc.

An ETF like BND might also work. Those shares ought to go up in value a bit as interest rates drop. It won’t soar in value, but also isn’t likely to take a huge dive either.

Treasury Direct is a good place to stash money at good interest rates. But there are annual limits.
 

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