All things STOCKS

[Go aeiou]

CCL is already something like 90% off it's low. It may scream higher and get back to 60, but you would have to knock me over the head and drag me on a cruise ship after seeing some of these ships persona non grata at so many ports of call. I think that would have to be on anyone's mind before getting on a ship. I think you could sink every Norwegian cruise ship in the bottom of the ocean and still have more rooms on cruise ships than demand to fill them over the next few years.

NCL is by far the smaller of the three lines with 17 ships. RCL has 61 ships and 17 more on order. CCL has 100 + ships. I suspect the number of ships that sail will dwindle, but all three lines will survive.
Another coronavirus or similar could be devastating. Or they might not survive this one?

 

[lmoore944]

CLVS seems to be a popular move for tomorrow.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Tennessee V Kentucky is on now.

SEC takeover just started.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

futures are down 400+ buying dips tomorrow

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

only -93 now...

 

[bignewt]

I just read that Nvidia is poised to make a jump.

 

[lmoore944]

CLVS seems to be a popular move for tomorrow.

Anybody buy in on this?

 

[SpringBokVol]

Sharp turn down at the close.

 

[Grudenator]

Sharp turn down at the close.

I thought the last 2 days of it being up was kinda silly. Not sure what everyone else’s opinions are, but I don’t see how the stimulus package is anything but bad for the economy.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I thought the last 2 days of it being up was kinda silly. Not sure what everyone else’s opinions are, but I don’t see how the stimulus package is anything but bad for the economy.

It would be much worse if it was all hitting in one year and didn't include any provisions to be paid back. It also helps that the US has a huge advantage over the EU (if the ability to print money is an advantage).

 

[Grudenator]

It would be much worse if it was all hitting in one year and didn't include any provisions to be paid back. It also helps that the US has a huge advantage over the EU (if the ability to print money is an advantage).

Question, so is this 2 trillion just gonna get tacked on to the national debt? Haven’t seen much on this.

 

[bignewt]

Question, so is this 2 trillion just gonna get tacked on to the national debt? Haven’t seen much on this.

No one even knows what the national debt is, it's an imaginary number.

 

[Grudenator]

No one even knows what the national debt is, it's an imaginary number.

So the national debt calculator is inaccurate?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

So the national debt calculator is inaccurate?

money isnt real

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Question, so is this 2 trillion just gonna get tacked on to the national debt? Haven’t seen much on this.

The grants will be included in the national debt as they are distributed. The loans will be put on the federal balance sheet and are expected to be paid back. I've even seen some articles about the government taking some stock... which is venturing into true socialism. Hopefully they flip it and score a quick profit if that's the case.

 

[DocVOLiday]

I kind of wish we'd have 2 threads. All Things Stock Trading and All Things Investing. There's really not as much overlap as it might appear. I like reading about the trading activity, but generally I'm far more long term. However this single thread often goes dark for long periods of time when things are calm, so I'll be fine. Carry on.

I think that's a good idea. looks like there are already a few old "investing" threads if you want to bump one

one made by BGC
Investing, Rentals, Retail Space etc.

one from 2007 lol. some of the comments are interesting to read this far removed
Investing

the one below seems to be the same as this thread (mainly dealing with stocks/etfs/etc.)
Online Investing?

 

[bignewt]

So the national debt calculator is inaccurate?

There is no actual tally that I know of, that tally is a political tool, nothing more. The US could just wipe out that debt to zero, I mean who do they owe? Who is going to collect? It's ridiculous.

 

[Volbucky]

I think we find the true bottom next week, Wednesday or Thursday. I’ve been wrong before though

 

[UT-Rex]

I think we find the true bottom next week, Wednesday or Thursday. I’ve been wrong before though

Regarding this topic: When were you last wrong, and what was the context (i.e. how much farther, and later out or quicker, did it drop, or rise) ?

Or, were you simply wrong about something totally unrelated ?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

There is no actual tally that I know of, that tally is a political tool, nothing more. The US could just wipe out that debt to zero, I mean who do they owe? Who is going to collect? It's ridiculous.

US citizens and China are the primary holders of the US National Debt.

 

[Volbucky]

Regarding this topic: When were you last wrong, and what was the context (i.e. how much farther, and later out or quicker, did it drop, or rise) ?

Or, were you simply wrong about something totally unrelated ?

Yes

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I think we find the true bottom next week, Wednesday or Thursday. I’ve been wrong before though

I think we will test those lows set Monday in the near future. I think the sheer totality of the numbers we see next week will drive that. By this time next week, we will likely have 250K cases in the US, over 1MM worldwide and there will be several hundred deaths in the US daily. We wont have the optimism of a stimulus package to distract the market.

The next unemployment report will be another 7 digit new claim report.

Considering that I bought a good bit Monday, I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Volbucky]

I think we will test those lows set Monday in the near future. I think the sheer totality of the numbers we see next week will drive that. By this time next week, we will likely have 250K cases in the US, over 1MM worldwide and there will be several hundred deaths in the US daily. We wont have the optimism of a stimulus package to distract the market.

The next unemployment report will be another 7 digit new claim report.

Considering that I bought a good bit Monday, I hope I'm wrong.

I’m thinking Thursday or Friday will be a good buy day, who knows though lol

 

[bignewt]

US citizens and China are the primary holders of the US National Debt.

Exactly and neither would ever collect so it's all a fairy tale.

 

[Go aeiou]

Exactly and neither would ever collect so it's all a fairy tale.

Both are paid on a regular basis. Do you own any US treasuries or a mutual fund of treasuries? Probably yes.

Some economists dont believe the national debt is relevant., and it is a political football. During Obama's term it was a big deal to Republicans. Not so under Trump.

Many people view excessive printing of money by the Federal Reserve to be the real problem. That should cause inflation.
OTOH, the manipulation of the money supply (more and less) might be a valuable tool to manipulate the economy.
Again, politics seem to override effective monetary policy.