Alligator attacks toddler at lagoon at Disney hotel

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FLVOL_79 said:
Like I posted earlier, just like when you go in the ocean..assume something there can kill you. I never go in the water in Florida unless its my pool where the only thing, like today, that can kill me is lightning.
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Oh I agree, but the way that beach area is presented at the Grand Floridian was not the best of ideas.
 
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davethevol said:
Oh I agree, but the way that beach area is presented at the Grand Floridian was not the best of ideas.
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I hate it for this family and in no way want to belittle this tragedy but in over 40 years this is the only such incident.

As someone with a 5, 3 and 17month old this story hits very close to home. Makes me sick even.
 
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bigdaddy said:
Ok, but we are talking about a two year old here, not a cat. Have some class.
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Sure. Printed word is so impersonal. I hate it for the family. I compartmentalized the 2 different scrnarios. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm a classy guy.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Gators always come back. There are over a million gators in FL. They need to hire someone to cull them full time. Anytime they get over 4 feet they need to be removed.

We have quite a few gators here in Southern Mississippi.
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A few years ago, I thought it was said that a gator was in Tombigbee/Pickwick Dam area...
 
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Glad the body was intact, maybe they can still have a funeral to remember the boy. So sad though. Can't believe there's people that are making jokes out of it. Some people have no heart.
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
Glad the body was intact, maybe they can still have a funeral to remember the boy. So sad though. Can't believe there's people that are making jokes out of it. Some people have no heart.
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Nicole Arbour was one who was making jokes about it. I normally enjoy watching her youtube crap, but she really showed her ass with her recent posts joking about the situation.
 
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This is very sad. I don't think it is a good idea to swim/wade in the lakes and ponds down here in Florida. Besides the gators, the water quality can be questionable and the bugs are bad. Lakes in Tennessee are far superior.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
This is very sad. I don't think it is a good idea to swim/wade in the lakes and ponds down here in Florida. Besides the gators, the water quality can be questionable and the bugs are bad. Lakes in Tennessee are far superior.
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Few years ago, when I was stationed in Jacksonville, we would take my boat out often to the St Johns intercoastal and ski and swim. You could see gators on both sides of the intercoastal from the boat and in hindsight, wasn't the smartest of things I have done. I know there are gators, snakes, and bull sharks all in those shallow brackish waters there. One day I had wiped on on the skiboard and was just in the middle of the water waiting on the boat to come back around and a manatee came up for air right in front of my face. Scared the **** out of me and the first thing that popped in my head was that I was about to get eaten by a gator.
 
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I'm ready to hit the reset button on 2016.

Disney is screwed for not alerting guests to the specific threat of alligators on the property.

Native Floridians know not to wade or swim in freshwater lakes at night because alligators hunt at night. You can't expect a family from Nebraska to know that.
 
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Waterskiing in a huge river like the St. Johns is ok. My first two months in Fl, I rented a room in a cabin next to Bell Lake in Land o Lakes. Its a good sized lake and I swam in it one time but the water near the bank was too hot and overgrown with weeds. It felt bad. Afterwards, I realized there are surely gators on the banks and it was a stupid thing to do.
 
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golfballs said:
Where ever you go, there are people who assume that just because they're at a resort or park on vacation that everything is safe. Like people who visit Cades Cove and try to feed or pet the bears.
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I've seen those lagoons around Disney World off and on my whole life. I understand that you should assume there are gators in most bodies of fresh water in Florida but I wouldn't have expected a gator in an area that they've clearly decorated as though it's a beach. For those saying the kid shouldn't have been swimming, he wasn't, he was wading ankle deep. If they insist on keeping that area looking like a beach they need more signage and they should just sink a metal, mesh like barrier along the perimeter of that "beachy" waterfront. This would deter any child from walking too deep into the water and it would keep any gators from approaching the shore.
 
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GAVol said:
People don't get that gators are curious animals; especially if they've ever been fed or think food is involved.
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And I would bet that tourist throw food in the water where the kid was taken.

Any time a human gets near or goes into an area woods/water etc where dangerous animals might be present you are putting your life in your own hands. I hate seeing bears, gators etc get killed because of an attack. You don't wanna be attacked don't go into their habitat.

This is an awful story, that poor kid
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
Glad the body was intact, maybe they can still have a funeral to remember the boy. So sad though. Can't believe there's people that are making jokes out of it. Some people have no heart.
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I agree.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Few years ago, when I was stationed in Jacksonville, we would take my boat out often to the St Johns intercoastal and ski and swim. You could see gators on both sides of the intercoastal from the boat and in hindsight, wasn't the smartest of things I have done. I know there are gators, snakes, and bull sharks all in those shallow brackish waters there. One day I had wiped on on the skiboard and was just in the middle of the water waiting on the boat to come back around and a manatee came up for air right in front of my face. Scared the **** out of me and the first thing that popped in my head was that I was about to get eaten by a gator.
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I would've crapped my trunks!
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I'm ready to hit the reset button on 2016.

Disney is screwed for not alerting guests to the specific threat of alligators on the property.

Native Floridians know not to wade or swim in freshwater lakes at night because alligators hunt at night. You can't expect a family from Nebraska to know that.
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I can only imagine the size of the check that Disney is going to have to write out to that family!!!
 
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BearCat204 said:
Few years ago, when I was stationed in Jacksonville, we would take my boat out often to the St Johns intercoastal and ski and swim. You could see gators on both sides of the intercoastal from the boat and in hindsight, wasn't the smartest of things I have done. I know there are gators, snakes, and bull sharks all in those shallow brackish waters there. One day I had wiped on on the skiboard and was just in the middle of the water waiting on the boat to come back around and a manatee came up for air right in front of my face. Scared the **** out of me and the first thing that popped in my head was that I was about to get eaten by a gator.
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Holy shi$!!! That would have been both amazing and scary. Back in the day my dad and uncle used to hunt in south Florida and they had a blue tick hound grabbed by a gator as they were walking near a swamp. They said both just said F it and went back to the truck, scared the mud right out of them
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Holy shi$!!! That would have been both amazing and scary. Back in the day my dad and uncle used to hunt in south Florida and they had a blue tick hound grabbed by a gator as they were walking near a swamp. They said both just said F it and went back to the truck, scared the mud right out of them
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That would've been scary also.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I can only imagine the size of the check that Disney is going to have to write out to that family!!!
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I'm not a lawyer and even I can find fault on Disney's part in this. They're pretty much guaranteed at least several million out of this if not more. That'll be pocket change for Disney and sadly it won't bring the kid back either. Both parties lose in cases like these.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I'm ready to hit the reset button on 2016.

Disney is screwed for not alerting guests to the specific threat of alligators on the property.

Native Floridians know not to wade or swim in freshwater lakes at night because alligators hunt at night. You can't expect a family from Nebraska to know that.
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I'm not from Florida and I know not to be in a freshwater lake at night in Florida.

Not blaming the parents here because it was a freak accident but let's keep it real.
 
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First, my deepest condolences to the family. My heart aches for them. Death is always hard, but even more so when it involves a child.

Second, just a comment on society, it's strange to me how different this case is perceived from the case in Cincinnati with the gorilla. Tragedy strikes every day, and even the best parents can't predict everything their children will or will not do.
 
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volmanbill said:
Alligator attacks 2-year-old boy at Disney World, recovery effort continues - Orlando Sentinel


It has been a rough week in Orlando.
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If it hadn't been for the gator, the child may have easily drowned if they can't even say how their child got in the water.

The family was relaxing on the shore in a play area when Lane somehow ended up in the water, Demings said. The area has signs posted against swimming in the lake, but they don't warn of the lurking gators.
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Do people not realize that gators live in Florida?

After hearing the news of another fatal alligator attack, Mary Mason shuddered thinking about her brother, who died while cave diving at Blue Spring State Park in Volusia County in October.

James Okkerse, 61, of DeBary, wasn't warned about the sighting of a 12-foot alligator, nicknamed "Big Blue," the night before he came for an early-morning swim, even though signs noted the perpetual threat.

Mason, who lives in Tennessee, said policies need to change to ensure the safety of visitors at Blue Spring, Disney or anywhere gators can strike.

"The signs are not making an impact," she said. "When people come to the parks, there needs to be something that's verbal ... They day my brother died, there was no communication from the park to patrons."
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